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Old 02-06-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Oh boy, time to read some legalese!
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Old 02-06-2018, 08:13 AM
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From the link-the new "commission"- membership-2 state, 1 MARTA, 2 Atlanta, 2 Fulton & cities, 2 DeKalb & cities, 2 Clayton & cities:"

50-32-56.448 There is created the Atlanta-region Transit Link 'ATL' Commission which shall serve as449 a division within the authority for purposes of planning and coordinating the provision of450 transit services, establishment of transit facilities, and funding of such purposes throughout451 the jurisdiction of the authority.452
50-32-57.453 (a) The commission shall be governed by a board of directors that shall initially consist of454 the following 11 members:455 (1) The Governor;456 (2) The commissioner of transportation;457 (3) The chief executive officer of the Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority;458 (4) The mayor of the City of Atlanta;459 (5) The president of the Atlanta City Council;460 (6) The chairperson of the Clayton County Board of Commissioners;461 (7) A mayor from Clayton County selected by a majority vote of a caucus of the mayors462 from municipalities within Clayton County;463 (8) The chief executive officer of DeKalb County;464 (9) A mayor from DeKalb County selected by a majority vote of a caucus of the mayors465 from municipalities within DeKalb County;466 (10) The chairperson of the Fulton County Board of Commissioners; and467 (11) A mayor from Fulton County selected by a majority vote of a caucus of the mayors468 from municipalities within Fulton County, excluding the City of Atlanta.469 (b) The chairperson of any county which approves a referendum to levy a sales and use470 tax pursuant to Article 5B of Chapter 8 of Title 48 or an initial or additional sales and use471 tax pursuant to Section 25 of the 'Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority Act of472 1965,' approved March 10, 1965 (Ga. L. 1965, p. 2243), as amended, shall be added to the473 initial board of directors. A mayor from such county selected by a majority vote of a474 caucus of the mayors from municipalities within such county shall also be added to the475 board of directors at the same time, provided that an intergovernmental agreement was476 entered into pursuant to Code Section 48-8-269.42 or the sales and use tax was one477 approved pursuant to the Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority Act.
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Old 02-06-2018, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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Oh boy, time to read some legalese!
Maybe you can summarize key points for us, in plain English. I'm trying but finding it hard to read.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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Might be way off, but if I'm reading it correctly, I think the "Intergovernmental agreement" section of the bill sort of addresses fourthwarden's earlier question, about what if a regionally-critical rail line needs to go through multiple counties (such as a line to Cumberland in Cobb, thru mostly Fulton).

It states that if there is an intergovernmental agreement involved, you get the full sales tax option of 1%. And if not, if only your own county is involved, it's .75%. I think, anyway. But either way, the transit will be operated by MARTA.

So I guess a rail line to Cobb from Midtown (or Perimeter or whatever), would be funded by sales tax in Cobb, if the project is on Cobb's project list. It's an intergovernmental agreement because some of the stations would be outside of Cobb.
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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In consultation with the metropolitan planning organization, as such term is defined in
489 Code Section 48-8-242, which jurisdiction is located wholly or partially within the
490 jurisdiction of the authority, the commission shall develop, annually review, and amend,
491 as necessary, a regional transit plan. Such plan shall include, but not be limited to, transit
492 projects based upon a region-wide approach to the provision of transit services through
493 buses and rail, the establishment of multimodal stations within the jurisdiction of the
494 authority, enhancement of connectivity throughout the region, cost-effective expansion of
495 existing transit systems, and the coordination of schedules and methods of payment for
496 transit service providers. Such plan shall include the creation of a unified brand to
497 encompass all transit service providers within the jurisdiction of the authority.
So to me it sounds like all transit, by any transit operator within the ATL jurisdiction (which is the GRTA jurisdiction which is 13 counties), will be re-branded to ATL. Regardless of adoption of a sales tax for MARTA to operate mass transit in a county.

Which means that if this thing passes, we're guaranteed (at some point) to have one singular transit system in the 13-county area, which would be ATL. Atlanta-region Transit Link.

Meaning that even if Cobb and Gwinnett and other counties choose to keep the existing status quo of under-funded transit, CobbLinc and Gwinnett County Transit will still go away (yay), and it will be re-branded to ATL, along with Xpress and MARTA being re-branded to ATL.

Of course more likely, some inner counties (Gwinnett probably be the first) will choose to pay a sales tax for increased mass transit, which MARTA will operate by service contract. But it's nice to know that even if Cobb doesn't do that or whatever, our transit will still be a part of the same transit system as Fulton, at least.

Note, this also doesn't amend or affect the MARTA act. So still only Cobb and Gwinnett are the only additional counties permitted to actually join MARTA. Other counties still don't have that option. But the point is kind of moot, since MARTA would be contracting to provide the transit anyway, basically the same as if they joined MARTA. I guess the only difference would be representation on the MARTA board in addition to the ATL board. Where MARTA is the operator itself.

Interesting.
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Atlanta-region Transit Link.
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Vinings
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Will be interesting to see to what degree MARTA assets are re-branded to ATL. Since MARTA would still be the operator. ATL would be a brand.

I'm betting that it will be a makeover of train and bus livery, signage, maps, apps, etc. But that MARTA will still have its own website, since it will still exist. And maybe some more architecturally permanent signs at station will say MARTA.

Also I'm sure the funds to re-brand will need to come thru GRTA, otherwise people will be (rightfully) up in arms.
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Vinings
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https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...-regional.html

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The first of at least two bills creating a regional transit system in metro Atlanta is before the Georgia Senate.

Legislation introduced Tuesday by Senate Transportation Committee Chairman Brandon Beach would let 13 counties within the footprint of the Georgia Regional Transportation Authority ask their voters for a penny sales tax that would raise money for transportation infrastructure in their communities.

Counties interested in participating would submit a proposed project list to the "ATL Commission," a new entity chaired by the governor and including the Georgia commissioner of transportation, the CEO of MARTA, the mayor of Atlanta, the chairman of the Fulton County Commission, the CEO of DeKalb County and county commission chairmen from other participating counties. The commission would develop and oversee a regional transit plan for metro Atlanta.

The bill calls for MARTA to be the provider of any new or expanded bus or rail service authorized by local voters, said Beach, R-Alpharetta.

"We’re not going to undo MARTA," he said. "If [counties] want to come in, their [transit systems] will be operated by MARTA but governed by the ATL Commission."

The bill would exempt purchases of jet fuel and energy used in manufacturing from the transportation sales tax.

While MARTA would operate the regional transit system, the bill calls for the Atlanta Commission to ultimately come up with a "unified brand" for the entire transit system, including the bus systems currently operating in Cobb and Gwinnett counties.

A second regional transit governance bill is expected to be introduced into the Georgia House of Representatives, perhaps as soon as this week.
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Old 02-06-2018, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Vinings
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Exactly, and I mean, really it will stay MARTA. That's the whole plan here. Not only is MARTA not being touched, it's being expanded in that it will now be allowed to operate as a contract mass transit operator in up to 13 counties. In fact it will have that exclusive right to do so. Counties will not be allowed to raise a sales tax for transit, unless they agree for it to be MARTA.

But yet since MARTA will be the operator but not the name brand (and counties won't have to join MARTA to get MARTA), the name MARTA won't appear on the ballot.

I can't praise this plan enough. Just simply brilliant.
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Old 02-06-2018, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Just outside of McDonough, Georgia
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The funny thing is that my reading of the bill does not specify a name for the brand, just the name of the commission. Hypothetically, the "ATL Commission" could still choose to brand the transit services as something else.

Anyway, I like the bill (at least at first glance), and I really like that it has the support of the chair of the Senate Transportation Committee, the Senate Majority Leader, and the Senate Rules Chairman. That gives me a good feeling about this bill's chances of passage (at least in the Senate).

- skbl17
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