01-24-2017, 04:07 PM
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BELMO45
My guess is once Deal and Reed are out it will happen very quickly. Both have largely been opposed to the idea but I think if they're replaced with 2 younger reps it will be different
Deal is ok with it as long as they are taxed over 20%. The average casino is taxed around 12%
01-24-2017, 04:13 PM
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If its at the airport I don't think they can make it a $2 billion resort because it will probably just be a casino. With the minimum $2 billion price tag they have to have dozens of shop and restaurants, an arena, clubs, etc, etc. I don't think the city will allow them to add dozens of new restaurants to compete with the restaurants already at the airport. I dont think that area is a good place for a new arena. Will people with money go to the airport for a show? Will Atlanta tourist go to the airport for a casino? A new arena would need to be downtown. Clubs/lounges wouldnt be a good fit for an airport location either. The regular airport crowd would be great to spend a few dollars at the casino but it will be a bad fit for the other entertainment venues at the traditional Vegas style casino
Casinos are a destination, not a side trip, people would make the trip to the casino at the airport even if it's not, and then they'd be hitting the 100 million people floating through the airport on a yearly basis.
They wouldn't build a new arena next to it, nor would that be necessary, a casino doesn't have any need or requirement to be next to an arena.
I'm not for a casino from what I know about them, but the airport has the most traffic of any place in this city and would likely provide the most funding for the city as a whole and while I don't agree, at least it wouldn't potentially make a huge block downtown completely empty and another parking deck.
If there is one casino in the whole city, tourists, etc will go even if it's at the airport.
01-24-2017, 04:16 PM
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Casinos are a destination, not a side trip, people would make the trip to the casino at the airport even if it's not, and then they'd be hitting the 100 million people floating through the airport on a yearly basis.
But it has to cost at least $2 billion. A casino and a hotel would probably be only around $1 billion.
01-24-2017, 04:18 PM
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It will be next to the airport. Are people going to leave the airport on the way to their destination to visit the casino? Can the airport support additional traffic? Its enough traffic there as it is. Its not like they will just be able to leave their concourse and walk right into the casino. Will the airport casino be close enough to the Airport MARTA Station because there isnt any available room for a casino in the immediate area surrounding the Airport MARTA Station
From speculation it would be attached, now all of these are speculation by the developer that is considering it apparently, so people seemingly could leave the airport if they have a long enough layover and restaurants could certainly do well.
01-24-2017, 04:20 PM
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I dunno, casino gambling isn't exactly progressive. I'm not sure how much they can count on support from the intown crowd.
I consider it progressive to not ban things like gambling for moral reasons if a developer wants to build a casino. That has been the primary source of opposition the same as it was for things like Sunday alcohol sales.
01-24-2017, 04:27 PM
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From speculation it would be attached, now all of these are speculation by the developer that is considering it apparently, so people seemingly could leave the airport if they have a long enough layover and restaurants could certainly do well.
I dont think the airport would allow them to build a casino that is connected to the airport. Plus I dont think there is enough room for it to be right next to the airport. Now there is room for it in the airport "complex" but not right next to the airport
I dont think most people with a short layover will risk leaving the airport to go to a casino at the airport unless it is directly connect to the airport.
01-24-2017, 07:08 PM
Location: Northlake
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I still stand with my comment made in a previous thread that the Underground has the best set up for a casino in downtown Atlanta. Push all that casino money into revitalizing that part of downtown Atlanta.
01-24-2017, 07:13 PM
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Build it at Lake Lanier.
01-24-2017, 07:52 PM
Location: Northlake
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Build it at Lake Lanier.
That would never happen lol. Other than once proposing a site in Gwinnett near 85, I feel we do not need another casino out north. Congestion is a major issue as is. It's more rural south of Atlanta versus north.
01-24-2017, 08:33 PM
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I consider it progressive to not ban things like gambling for moral reasons if a developer wants to build a casino. That has been the primary source of opposition the same as it was for things like Sunday alcohol sales.
Many progressives are going to consider the human impact and the human impact of a casino is not insignificant. It generally impacts poorer people negatively. It's a stumbling block for those that make bad decisions. These are things progressive people tend to be concerned about. I think supporting a casino is more of a libertarian stance.
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And Deal’s opposition last year was a stinging blow to casino advocates. he said then .
I appreciate the hell out of Deal for this. It would have been a sucker deal to take the national average as Georgia has no need for a Casino. If operators want to play here, they should pay a premium. There is no good resason to allow for such a significant transfer of wealth without a high cost.
I wish they would hold out for 24%. We don't need a casino and they want to tap into our resources. They will likely give in but if they dont, it's no loss. So happy we didn't have a pro casino gov in office for the last session.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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