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Keeping those promises, looking out for the little guy, that's Trump for sure!
A lot happened in the 2016 campaign, but one of the things Donald Trump did to win the election was shift to the left on a number of key issues — promising to avoid cuts in Social Security and Medicare benefits and adopting a longstanding Democratic pledge to let Medicare negotiate bulk discounts in the price it pays for prescription drugs.
Today, after a meeting with pharmaceutical industry lobbyists and executives, he abandoned that pledge, referring to an idea he supported as recently as three weeks ago as a form of “price fixing” that would hurt “smaller, younger companies.” Instead of getting tough, Trump’s new plan is that he’s “going to be lowering taxes” and “getting rid of regulations.”
The problem is not a lack of Empathy on the Right, the problem is actually too much empathy on the Left. You're so overrun with empathy that you fail to see reality!
I have empathy, but I'm also realistic. We cannot possibly help every human on Earth. There are people all over the globe right now living in squalor. Should we take them all in? What number of them is enough? What's wrong with a temporary ban to make sure our vetting process is as good as it possibly can be? The primary role of our government is the security of our nation and its citizens, not taking in every refugee on Earth!
There is a lack of Empathy on the right and even Antipathy
Conservative usually are in defends of the majority and have lack of Empathy to minorities. Race, religions and etc. This make profiling acceptable to them.
During War World II the US put the Japanese in camps for security of our nation, because there was fear of Japanese Americans reaching out and helping Japan....
Now think about for second WWII?.............. didn't we fight Germany and Italy too? ............ If there such a fear of the diaspora helping there home countries how come there wasn't German and Italian camps?
Empathy is the ability to walk in some else shoes.... because being white they have natural empathy to other whites it's clearly stupid to put German and Italian in camps, but there are not a lot of Japanese Americans with the lack of Empathy Japanese Americans were relocated to camps.
Let go further the Klan burn crosses in the name Christianity and Being European decent? "security of our nation"
A significant number of White christian Europeans came the US from 1880 to 1920's. There was many issue in Europe such as the Ireland famine, The Russian October Revolution, in general a WW1 Europe and a lot of nationalism.
For the "security of our nation" Do you think the US should ban white christians Europeans enter the US? 1880 to 20's or does this sound stupid?
"security of our nation' angle is bull****. Your have to justify profiling. and ignorance and generalize a religion and region of folks. This would not happen if they was white Christians, This is happening because they brown Arab Muslims.
Yep. And I have so-called "Christian" friends on Facebook who not only see no problem with this, but actually think Trump was sent by God to save America!
God help us all ...
I don't support the ban, but it bothers me how so many folks excuse that culture for favoring Sharia Law and how it oppresses gays, women, converts, and non-Muslims aka you're dead in some countries.
Conservative usually are in defends of the majority and have lack of Empathy to minorities. Race, religions and etc. This make profiling acceptable to them.
During War World II the US put the Japanese in camps for security of our nation, because there was fear of Japanese Americans reaching out and helping Japan....
Now think about for second WWII?.............. didn't we fight Germany and Italy too? ............ If there such a fear of the diaspora helping there home countries how come there wasn't German and Italian camps?
Empathy is the ability to walk in some else shoes.... because being white they have natural empathy to other whites it's clearly stupid to put German and Italian in camps, but there are not a lot of Japanese Americans with the lack of Empathy Japanese Americans were relocated to camps.
Let go further the Klan burn crosses in the name Christianity and Being European decent? "security of our nation"
A significant number of White christian Europeans came the US from 1880 to 1920's. There was many issue in Europe such as the Ireland famine, The Russian October Revolution, in general a WW1 Europe and a lot of nationalism.
For the "security of our nation" Do you think the US should ban white christians Europeans enter the US? 1880 to 20's or does this sound stupid?
"security of our nation' angle is bull****. Your have to justify profiling. and ignorance and generalize a religion and region of folks. This would not happen if they was white Christians, This is happening because they brown Arab Muslims.
It's not profiling when the fact is that 99% of Syrian refugees admitted to the USA were Muslim, despite 10% of that population is being Christian. That makes NO sense that only 1% got in....there is no excuse for this. Would people say that is the 10% were LGBT vs the rest being straight?
It's like allowing 99% white folks in, but ignoring the nearly 10% of minorities. Many of those Christians have been beheaded and exiled for being infidels in their eyes. It makes sense to protect the most oppressed and bullied people, the same way we help protect countries like Israel from getting wiped off the map.
If this was a TRUE Muslim ban, then wouldn't it be more than just 7 out of 40 Muslim countries being banned? Not to mention that Christians from those countries (as few as they are) are also banned from entering the USA.
Your empathy is sincere, but your ignoring the most oppressed is misguided. Don't confuse our country's dominant Christian population with the minority of another.
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It's not profiling when the fact is that 99% of Syrian refugees admitted to the USA were Muslim, despite 10% of that population is being Christian. That makes NO sense that only 1% got in....there is no excuse for this. Would people say that is the 10% were LGBT vs the rest being straight?
It's like allowing 99% white folks in, but ignoring the nearly 10% of minorities. Many of those Christians have been beheaded and exiled for being infidels in their eyes. It makes sense to protect the most oppressed and bullied people, the same way we help protect countries like Israel from getting wiped off the map.
If this was a TRUE Muslim ban, then wouldn't it be more than just 7 out of 40 Muslim countries being banned? Not to mention that Christians from those countries (as few as they are) are also banned from entering the USA.
Your empathy is sincere, but your ignoring the most oppressed is misguided. Don't confuse our country's dominant Christian population with the minority of another.
Besides there a separation between the religion and gov, and that government doesn't suppose be treating religions different in the first place.
your contradicting your self in your post. the first paragraphs your defending Trump prioritize Christian refugees but at end your saying it's not, but is if Trump plan is to prioritize Christian refugees
It's from Trump mouth. your arguing with me... your arguing with Trump about what he think.
You are profiling......... so even tho Most Terrorist victims are Muslims, because the terrorist are Muslim you think Christian should be prioritize? So it's like oh it's Muslims killing Muslims, don't worry about the Muslim victim just worry about the Christian victims.
You know would help those Christian there how not banning altogether how about that?
You basically ignore my post and just post... During WWII we put The Japanese Americans in camps for "security of our nation" which is ironic because we didn't do that with Germans and Italians. I wonder why the Japanese was for the security of our nation?
The Klan burn crosses for a reason.............
When Europe had significant poverty and was war torn, America let them in though Ellis Island............ We didn't associate the KKK with all white christian and people of European ancestry did we?
Most Muslims in the world have as much in common with Terrorist as white people did with the Klan. generalizations are stupid aren't they?
Banning places in the middle east because of fear terrorism is illogical it's like banning white people from Europe because of Klans views...... you don't see the profiling in this really? hmmm.
I don't support the ban, but it bothers me how so many folks excuse that culture for favoring Sharia Law and how it oppresses gays, women, converts, and non-Muslims aka you're dead in some countries.
Again most terrorist victims are Muslim.
Terrorist organizations are far far right wing and they don't like the growing number of moderate and liberal Muslims.
To defeat terrorist depend of the growth of more moderate and liberal Muslims. This is another reason why it's important not to discriminate and isolate them.
Don't give people more reason to dislike the US. Seriously how do you think this going to be view in that part of world?
As John McCain said terrorist groups are going use to this to recoup.
Yeah, no other president EVER has done any kind of meddling in the Middle East. Certainly not starting TWO of the longest running conflicts in our nation's history. Surely none of that started BEFORE Obama came into office.
Noooo. It's ALL Obama's fault, and for SOME REASON that justifies all this mess today, somehow. (/so much sarcasm)
We're not talking about Obama, anyway. We're talking about Trump, and his policies today, right now. Try to stay on topic.
lol what's wrong? You don't like it when you are reminded that Obama and his adminstration created the chaos, death and misery in Syria? The refugees just didn't magically appear, they were created by your beloved politicians.
The problem is not a lack of Empathy on the Right, the problem is actually too much empathy on the Left. You're so overrun with empathy that you fail to see reality!
I have empathy, but I'm also realistic. We cannot possibly help every human on Earth. There are people all over the globe right now living in squalor. Should we take them all in? What number of them is enough? What's wrong with a temporary ban to make sure our vetting process is as good as it possibly can be? The primary role of our government is the security of our nation and its citizens, not taking in every refugee on Earth!
Indeed! We really need to protect ourselves from those terrorists who killed 15,048 Americans last year!!
Oh wait, sorry...terrorists killed only 6 last year, unless you consider the Pulse nightclub a terrorist act. If you do, then that number skyrockets to 54. 54...the number killed by American gun violence every 32 hours. Yet, any attempt to even think about discussing an option to look at this is shut down immediately by the right.
What do you really want? Because the safety of American lives is not it.
Indeed! We really need to protect ourselves from those terrorists who killed 15,048 Americans last year!!
Oh wait, sorry...terrorists killed only 6 last year, unless you consider the Pulse nightclub a terrorist act. If you do, then that number skyrockets to 54. 54...the number killed by American gun violence every 32 hours. Yet, any attempt to even think about discussing an option to look at this is shut down immediately by the right.
What do you really want? Because the safety of American lives is not it.
Yet anytime someone mentions the truth of gun violence people get labeled a racist. Also, which party tends to favor giving hardened criminals second, third and fourth chances?
Liberal laws and political correctness is the reason why I support the second amendment because until we stop the nonesense and guarantee life sentences for anyone that uses a gun in a crime even if not fired, we need to be able to protect ourselves.
lol what's wrong? You don't like it when you are reminded that Obama and his adminstration created the chaos, death and misery in Syria? The refugees just didn't magically appear, they were created by your beloved politicians.
The invasion of, lack of an exit strategy for, and subsequent failure of nationbuilding that was Iraq had a lot more to do with the rise of Daesh.
Yes Obama and crew had problems, but if we must focus on other politicians rather than those who are acting in front of us now, let's not forget he who invaded in the first place. Bush took on a country that wasn't connected to 9/11, and which didn't have WMDs. We invaded a country, destroyed its government, its military, and its infrastructure, and then had no real plan to handle all that once the fighting was over.
We sat there half-assedly putting things back together in the most barest of senses, then left, all while having killed tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of civilians. We opened a gaping wound in the country, and barely treated it. Is it any wonder that infection would be the outcome? Is it any wonder that that infection would spread?
The previous administration is not innocent, but they are not singularly to blame, not by a long shot. It would help, likely, if you did not make assumptions about me and my views reguarding either.
Coming back to the original point, though, we are talking about the here, and the now. We are talking about what Trump is doing today. There is the next best thing to zero strategic or security reason for this ban. Trump has himself said in interviews, and members of his advisory group have said in interviews, that this is an attempt to restrict muslims over christians, which is illegal under US law. This act is not just limited to refugees, but has been applied in broad terms to many who have earned legal residence and passage to our country, stripping them of the rights granted by that legal status.
This ban is an abomonation to what our nation, a nation of imigrants and refugees of all creeds, stands for. The insistant deffence of it, as well as petty throwbacks in a vein attempt to distract from it, is appaling. All we are doing is feeding Daesh's propoganda machine in proving them right. We are showing them that the west is not tollerent, not caring, and not open to help. All we are doing is playing into their hand and helping them radicalize even more to their side.
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