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Old 02-18-2017, 02:29 PM
 
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Replacing a population is segregation, there cases of gentrification where diverse neighborhoods turn white.

The problem is not about keeping the city black, but rather blacks staying apart of the growing diversity.

MLK last major agenda was to decrease the racial income inequality.
Did you watch the trailer? That isn't what was discussed....Did you see the woman asking lord help us if Blacks lose political seats? Is it ok for Asians to take over a neighborhood? The people in this documentary are advocating for keeping black neighborhoods black. What in the heck do you call that?
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:35 PM
 
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I love gentrification. It will put Atlanta on the world map. Let's keep it growing.
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:42 PM
 
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Seems to me you're jumping to conclusions. The billboard's message is obviously one that is critical of a downside of gentrification. Theoretically, people of all races should be able to move into the city without displacing other groups but we know that far too often, that doesn't happen.



Who exactly are the bigots and racists of Atlanta city government? Name names.
Lets start with this very offensive and racist radio advertisement.


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Old 02-18-2017, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Historic West End
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As an native Atlantan, I grew up on Campbellton Road in the 1980's. As my parents advanced in income we move and purchase a home in College Park when it very nice and middle classs. Blacks were not forced out but decided to leave on their own merit.
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:58 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Lets start with this very offensive and racist radio advertisement.


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Ah, memories.
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:40 PM
 
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No, the solution is to quit looking for a 'boogeyman' to blame (that doesn't exist)
The hilarious part of this your so far to the right, and want black people to blame white so bad and trying straw man that in the convo, That you assumes what are my views......... and you don't realized that part of this in fought of black leaders in Atlanta.

Everything is not white vs black people again you stop it.

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What is affordable to you may not be affordable to me. There will ALWAYS be someone who can't afford housing it is impossible to make it so everything is affordable.
Ummm There something called lower, middle and upper class......... if the neighborhood was a low middle class you can't replace half the neighborhood with up class homes and condos.

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Lastly, the double standards need to stop. It is ok for wealthy African Americans, Hispanics, Asians, Indians, etc. to move where they want. It is for some ridiculous reason NOT ok for 'whites' to move where they want. They are the only group who is targeted regarding 'gentrification'. Don't you find that odd?

The ideas being propagated in this documentary stop nothing short of advocating for Segregation and for one class of people to remain in power. I find that very bigoted and offensive. It needs to stop. It WILL stop.
I going to ignore how quick this turn to white vs minorities to you, which show your true colors. This comes from not listening and trying to argue. You creative your own dilemma in your head from not listening.

Again this goes back to economically diverse housing, there nothing wrong with the lower, middle or upper class Whites moving in. If you actually read my post you would notice I had no opposition to whites moving in. I want whites, black, Latino, Asians to come to together that great. The problem is this not that it's not integration it's replacing with another segregation.

I don't give one flying F about what color of who is in power. It doesn't matter if the black pop drop out of the majority as long as the black is still growing.

Memphis has a way larger black percentage than NY, but not only is NY more diverse. but ironically still NY has a way larger black pop then Memphis and more cultural center to blacks. I rather for ATL to grow like NY than Memphis. Otherwise Atlanta black pop doesn't have to decrease from Atlanta to become more diverse. It's not a either or, black or white, win lose situations. How ever any situation no matter if it's white, black, Asians and etc is decreasing bad.

The issue are developers building just upper class housing in lower middle class neighborhoods it's not white people, you straw man it as blaming whites because you wanted it to be your argument to counter. It doesn't work when that not my position.

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Old 02-18-2017, 03:55 PM
 
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Did you watch the trailer? That isn't what was discussed....Did you see the woman asking lord help us if Blacks lose political seats? Is it ok for Asians to take over a neighborhood? The people in this documentary are advocating for keeping black neighborhoods black. What in the heck do you call that?


Making this white vs minorities it's really shows your colors and what this is really about to you.

I try to debate with you but I don't see the world simply black or white the way your showing.

"Is it ok for Asians to take over a neighborhood?" this called a load question and it's a straw man the same time.
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Old 02-18-2017, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Raleigh/Cary NC
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Make no mistake, gentrification is real. This is happening in cities all across the nation. This has an impact on low income and working class people of all races. It just so happens that by number affluent neighborhoods are usually prominently white. Since by number a disproportionate number of blacks still live in poverty, the statement contains some truth. Gentrification forces working class blacks, latino and other whites and nonwhites out of a neighborhood.

A larger issues is where do these people go and who will invest in the neighborhoods that they'll be shipped off to? Gentrification planning usually has no consideration for city planning or relocation of working class people.
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Old 02-18-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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A larger issue is where do these people go and who will invest in the neighborhoods that they'll be shipped off to? Gentrification planning usually has no consideration for city planning or relocation of working class people.
Really the most pertinent point made so far.
I've said before that to create a successful community you have to provide access for those that are willing to take the lower-paying positions; otherwise, who's going to staff your service-oriented businesses? Why would they take such a job if the cost and logistics of getting there were too difficult?
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Old 02-18-2017, 05:53 PM
 
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Making this white vs minorities it's really shows your colors and what this is really about to you.

I try to debate with you but I don't see the world simply black or white the way your showing.

"Is it ok for Asians to take over a neighborhood?" this called a load question and it's a straw man the same time.
It is about double standards. One set of rules applies to one group(s) and not others. That isn't a straw man. If you followed the original link and watched the trailer it absolutely is unfortunately a black or white thing. One group is being blamed for something. You have to be able to think critically and ask yourself if I replace that one group with another group would the outcome be the same? It wouldn't. That is just reality. Unfortunately.

Luckily things are changing.
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