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Old 04-21-2017, 09:31 AM
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If this happens and they do it right, I could easily live without a car.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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The prospects for Hulsey are jaw-dropping, to say the least. My immediate thought was to compare this to the revitalization of Philadelphia's Center City in the 60's. The situations are remarkably similar; in both cases you're looking at a massive rail yard that was a major impediment to intown development.

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Hulsey Yard bisects some of the hottest intown neighborhoods in the city: Sweet Auburn, Inman Park, Edgewood, Kirkwood and Glenwood Park. Imagine the area with that impediment removed.
While you're at it, imagine the neighborhoods of West Midtown without the presence of Howell Yard.
Don't forget, the rail line will remain. If Hulsey goes, you'll only be gaining about 300 feet of space. Better? Maybe, but hardly the same as completely abandoning the area.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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Hulsey could be turned into the mother of all Mattress Firms
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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If this happens and they do it right, I could easily live without a car.
This would be a positive stop towards that:

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Hulsey closing and selling + somebody GOOD redeveloping it (not Fuqua) + MARTA infill at Krog St = game changer for ATL.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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The prospects for Hulsey are jaw-dropping, to say the least. My immediate thought was to compare this to the revitalization of Philadelphia's Center City in the 60's. The situations are remarkably similar; in both cases you're looking at a massive rail yard that was a major impediment to intown development.
Or maybe Hudson Yards in NYC. A very big deal if this happens!
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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Don't forget, the rail line will remain. If Hulsey goes, you'll only be gaining about 300 feet of space. Better? Maybe, but hardly the same as completely abandoning the area.
More like 300-600 feet of development space gained, between the tracks and Wylie St. 300 on the west side of the yard, and maybe up to almost 600 feet at spots over on the east side of the yard where it's a lot bigger.

And the thing is 1.5 miles long!
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:10 AM
 
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The only yard "in the way" is Hulsey and that's on the NE/SE beltline. The NW beltline wasn't going anywhere near any yards, and the rail lines are staying put.
The NW line crosses right at the south end of tilford, doesn't it?

Howell yard (that's the one by Chattahoichee, right?) is pointless. The lines to the north of it run only to the power plant. And the power plant no longer uses coal, so the line is essentially abandoned at this point. It's also the line that the Connect The Comet people are going after. Do it. Do it now.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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They don't mention specifics, but at a guess, he's talking about Tilford [...]
CSX has already confirmed that Tilford will close. That is very much in line with the comments in the article you posted about moving away from using hump yards.

Hulsey occupies a good amount of prime real estate, but it's not like development there instantly reconnects the north and south sides. There are still MARTA tracks, and you'd assume CSX would continue using the remaining trackage. So yes, big development potential and maybe reduced headaches for beltline transit, but it's not like it'd restore connections everywhere.

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Old 04-21-2017, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Very interesting, indeed!

https://www.google.com/maps/search/c.../data=!3m1!4b1

https://www.google.com/maps/place/CS...!4d-84.3679442

The prospect of closing and selling off Howell and Hulsey Yards would be a huge step forward for intown resurgence.

Where is CQ? He should be doing cartwheels over this news.
Sorry I was picking up trash in The Bluff. I heard this news and will wait to see what happens. The property is valuable and if developed, should be done in conjunction of an infill MARTA station.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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The NW line crosses right at the south end of tilford, doesn't it?
No, it runs a fair bit south of Tilford, closer to Howell crossing somewhere in this area: https://goo.gl/maps/EHcg24k22fS2 None of that is going to change.
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Howell yard (that's the one by Chattahoichee, right?) is pointless. The lines to the north of it run only to the power plant. And the power plant no longer uses coal, so the line is essentially abandoned at this point. It's also the line that the Connect The Comet people are going after. Do it. Do it now.
No, Howell yard is just north of the map I posted, a good miles from the Chattahoochee. There is however a rather large Transflo facility there, but I imagine it could be relocated to Tilford without too much trouble. But I believe Howell mostly serves local industries which can probably be served out of Tilford.
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CSX has already confirmed that Tilford will close. That is very much in line with the comments in the article you posted about moving away from using hump yards.
Wrong, Tilford is not closing, just the hump, it will remain a flat-switching yard.
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