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Old 12-25-2017, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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There hasn't been a single train on that track since the power plant at Plant Atkinson changed from coal to natural gas about five years ago. The track goes only to that plant. The railroad tracks were bent. The track was essentially abandoned. Until last week.
Who's advice did those residents buy, with the understanding the track was abandoned?
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Old 12-25-2017, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Matt, what (if anything) does the closing of Tilford indicate about the ATL's importance in freight rail?

Is it just a matter of changing times?
Atlanta doesn't quite sit at the important crossroads of freight rail that it once did. With just two major railroads in the east now, they had multiple redundant routes and have pared them down to only a few. CSX's through traffic basically has two major Florida routes, and neither have to go through Atlanta. Even then, Atlanta isn't quite the origin/destination for freight that it used to be.

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There hasn't been a single train on that track since the power plant at Plant Atkinson changed from coal to natural gas about five years ago. The track goes only to that plant. The railroad tracks were bent. The track was essentially abandoned. Until last week.
Did the real estate agent actually use the word abandoned? That is actually a specific legal definition when it comes to railroads. If they said that and it wasn't, then it sounds like there could be grounds for a lawsuit (I am not a lawyer and all that jazz).
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Old 12-25-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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Who's advice did those residents buy, with the understanding the track was abandoned?
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Did the real estate agent actually use the word abandoned? That is actually a specific legal definition when it comes to railroads. If they said that and it wasn't, then it sounds like there could be grounds for a lawsuit (I am not a lawyer and all that jazz).
I don't know details. I don't even know the person who commented. I just recall them saying that when they bought, they were informed that the track was no longer active (sorry, she did not say abandoned, and she didn't buy the house solely on the basis). And, like I said, there has not been a single train on it in five years. To me, that says "not active" (as does the fact that it goes only to the power plant and is paved over beyond that). I am not privy to the actual discussions that the person and their realtor had.

Like I said...the closing of Tilford explains the sudden appearance of trains back there. This is also the track on which "Connect The Comet" was supposed to be built. If that track becomes active again, might as well shut that idea down.
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Old 12-26-2017, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Confirmed with a CSX friend of mine; it's closed.
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Old 12-26-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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So what do you all think will happen with Tilford? A developer will come in and buy it? Opens up all that land along Marietta Blvd as wel.
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Old 12-26-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Tilford closed as part of CSX's new CEO E. Hunter Harrison's plan for "precision railroading." EHH passed away last week so the continuation of his plans moving forward is in question. Tilford may end up being re-opened afterall. CSX has already changed its tune in other places. EHH had backed out of a plan with Maryland to rebuild the Howard St. Tunnel. After his passing, CSX has announced that they're again open to the project.
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Old 12-26-2017, 05:24 PM
 
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Matt, what (if anything) does the closing of Tilford indicate about the ATL's importance in freight rail?

Is it just a matter of changing times?
Tilford was (at least partially) a hump yard. Hump yards are increasingly expensive since to operate, as the equipment is old and requires a lot of maintenance expense. The people familiar with keeping them running are also a progressively older demographic, with no good way to backfill them.
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Old 12-26-2017, 05:38 PM
 
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I didn't read through this entire thread but Im just throwing this out there on a limb and that would be the question of.. ..is there any chance at all that any of these railyards could be converted into hubs or storage facilities for a commuter rail? I am desperately wishing Atlanta would build one.
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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Matt and red92s, interesting insights. Thank you.
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Old 12-27-2017, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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I didn't read through this entire thread but Im just throwing this out there on a limb and that would be the question of.. ..is there any chance at all that any of these railyards could be converted into hubs or storage facilities for a commuter rail? I am desperately wishing Atlanta would build one.
This is what I would like to see. If, and I know it's a big if, CSX goes through with permanently shutting down Tilford, I think it's an opportunity to grab up a piece of existing rail infrastructure to use for future commuter, and intercity rail.

There's more than enough room, and if we add Armor and a potential HSR service facility down by the Airport as GDOT is planning to the mix, we'd be well and set for most of our needs for a LONG time.
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