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Old 04-29-2017, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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City lines are irrelevant in this case, Milton was the rest of unincorporated North Fulton. South Fulton did the same.
I don't know about that. There is a lawsuit in court right not that might reaffirm that city lines do matter...
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Old 04-29-2017, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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I see this a why many suburban jurisdictions are going to be in for a rude awakening soon, but I would rather see back and watch this play out. It's not going to be in their favor though...
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Valdosta (Atlanta Native)
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I see this a why many suburban jurisdictions are going to be in for a rude awakening soon, but I would rather see back and watch this play out. It's not going to be in their favor though...
Yeah, because the citizens having power over their own community is so disastrous.
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Old 04-30-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Yeah, because the citizens having power over their own community is so disastrous.
Depends on the scale you're talking about, but yeah, it can be. None of these places are Mayberry. They don't exist on their own in a pristine little vacuum. They're part of the 9th largest metro in the United States by both population and GDP.

Over balkanization, and the lack of ability to coordinate the metro that comes with it, can be quite painful and damaging.
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Valdosta (Atlanta Native)
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Depends on the scale you're talking about, but yeah, it can be. None of these places are Mayberry. They don't exist on their own in a pristine little vacuum. They're part of the 9th largest metro in the United States by both population and GDP.

Over balkanization, and the lack of ability to coordinate the metro that comes with it, can be quite painful and damaging.
In South Fulton's case, the balkanization had already done it's damage. If North Fulton never incorporated we wouldn't have to. Either way city governments are way more efficient than county ones.
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Old 05-01-2017, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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In South Fulton's case, the balkanization had already done it's damage. If North Fulton never incorporated we wouldn't have to.
So the answer was more balkanization?

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Either way city governments are way more efficient than county ones.
Not for doing things that need to be done on the county, or even metro level.
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Old 05-01-2017, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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Yeah, because the citizens having power over their own community is so disastrous.
That's a delusional lie within itself especially in the case of South Fulton. There is no "community" in South Fulton, just a bunch of people that were stuck together. Last time I remember several property owners along Cascade are suing the sh*t out of South Fulton after being forcefully put into this to go into Atlanta, so did you forget...

Stonecrest stands a better chance of survival. Finally, Tucker should long time ago incorporated since it has a long established downtown business district.
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Old 05-01-2017, 06:12 AM
 
Location: North Atlanta
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That's a delusional lie within itself especially in the case of South Fulton. There is no "community" in South Fulton, just a bunch of people that were stuck together. Last time I remember several property owners along Cascade are suing the sh*t out of South Fulton after being forcefully put into this to go into Atlanta, so did you forget...
And the requisite visual aid:

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Old 05-01-2017, 07:22 AM
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And the requisite visual aid:
Yes. There is a Southwest Fulton (between Chattahoochee Hills and Atlanta), a Southeast Fulton (South of College Park and East of Union City), a South Central Fulton (South of East Point and North of Union City) and a South/North/East/West of Union city Fulton (all the rest of the crazy pieces).
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Old 05-01-2017, 07:45 AM
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Finally, Tucker should long time ago incorporated since it has a long established downtown business district.
I agree with this, but, speaking as a long time Tucker resident (although I do not currently live there), I'm glad their attempts in the '00s failed. The leadership of the cityhood movement back then were mostly a bunch of backwards looking, unrealistic blowhards, with a dash of thinly veiled racism and homophobia thrown in. The folks who made it happen a few years ago are a much more sensible and diverse group.
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