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Old 04-26-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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State reverses course, approves road diet for Avondale’s main street | Decaturish - Locally sourced news

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As Avondale Estates develops its downtown, one of the ongoing questions is how to make U.S. 278, the main road through the city, friendlier to pedestrians.

The city has discussed putting U.S. 278 on a road diet, but the Georgia Department of Transportation initially rejected that idea.

But GDOT has reconsidered and given its approval for the city to move forward, Mayor Jonathan Elmore said. The road will be reduced from two lanes in each direction to one lane in each direction. There will also be fewer turn lanes, he said. The news was initially confirmed by Second Century Avondale, a citizens advocacy group.

“U.S. 278 will start to feel more like main street than just a big fat highway,” Elmore said. “We had previously requested the road diet and it was turned down for various reasons, so we asked for a reconsideration. They looked at the traffic flow again and said, ‘We can do this.’ It’s a big deal for us."
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Old 04-26-2017, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Great news, make Avondale Estates more walkable!
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Old 04-26-2017, 01:22 PM
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Think this supports what we have said on the other thread. GDOT almost always defers to the local government on state highways.
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Great, take the ONLY and already heavily congested E-W road through the area, and make it worse! What are they smoking up at GDOT? They're supposed to be the backstop against local lunacy like this!
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:21 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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What are they smoking up at GDOT? They're supposed to be the backstop against local lunacy like this!
From Chapter 9 of GDOT's Design Policy Manual:

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It is the policy of the Georgia Department of Transportation (GDOT) to routinely incorporate bicycle,
pedestrian, and transit accommodations into transportation infrastructure projects as a means for
improving mobility, access, and safety for the traveling public. Accordingly, GDOT coordinates with
local governments and planning organizations to ensure that bicycle, pedestrian, and transit needs
are addressed, beginning with system planning and continuing through design, construction,
maintenance and operations. This is the “Complete Streets” approach for promoting pedestrian,
bicycle, and transit travel in the State of Georgia.

The concept of Complete Streets emphasizes safety, mobility, and accessibility for all modes of
travel and for individuals of all ages and abilities. The design of transportation projects for multiple
travel modes requires balancing the needs of each mode. This “balance” must be accomplished in
a context sensitive manner appropriate to the type of roadway and the conditions within the project
and surrounding area.
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Great, take the ONLY and already heavily congested E-W road through the area, and make it worse! What are they smoking up at GDOT? They're supposed to be the backstop against local lunacy like this!
So designing a street to serve the people that live around it is 'local lunacy'?
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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From Chapter 9 of GDOT's Design Policy Manual:
Then it would seem that GDOT is violating their own policy as there is no "balance" here there's just screwing the drivers for the bikers and pedestrians.
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So designing a street to serve the people that live around it is 'local lunacy'?
When that street is the only E-W thoroughfare through the area, yes, it absolutely is. This is exactly what Cobb County did with STP, yet you claimed to be against that because of its regional effect. But you support this despite its regional effect. Make up your mind will you?
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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Great news, make Avondale Estates more walkable!
Horrible news, in the morning, it backs up to almost Kensington Station because the road goes down to one lane and doesnt open back up until it becomes 2 lanes each way downtown.

They have a sidewalk already down there.
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Then it would seem that GDOT is violating their own policy as there is no "balance" here there's just screwing the drivers for the bikers and pedestrians.

When that street is the only E-W thoroughfare through the area, yes, it absolutely is. This is exactly what Cobb County did with STP, yet you claimed to be against that because of its regional effect. But you support this despite its regional effect. Make up your mind will you?
Memorial Dr, I-20, North Decatur
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Memorial Dr, I-20, North Decatur
Go back and read my post, I said "through the area." That doesn't include roads that are miles away.

If they want a protected downtown, flip 278 and S. Avondale, but 278 through the area should be widened to match each side, not narrowed even further.
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