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Old 07-28-2017, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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Once again, show up at an HOA meeting. Tell your story without first talking about lawyers. Ask to get the penalties after the first wash waived. The management company works for the homeowners. They don't want to come across in front of the board and other homeowners as jerks mistreating reasonable homeowners. There is enough problem with homeowners who ignore the HOA and don't pay their dues.
This is wise advice.
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Old 07-28-2017, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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I'm not contradicting you. But some of the HOAs will lawyer up and find ways to maintain control of a community that is attempting to oust them. My neighbor told me that our community had been trying for quite some time to get rid of this one, but it keeps finding loop holes.

Its hard to believe that a country of laws would allow an industry to behave unchecked this way. If I screw up, the consumer has my broker, the GA Real Estate Commission and other ways to be made whole again. But an HOA management company seems to be able to just behave however they want with regard to someone else's property, including acting as judge, jury and enforcer. They serve a purpose for sure. But there needs to be checks, balances and accountability somewhere IMHO.
Your neighbors who serve on the board are ultimately responsible to the residents.
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Woodstock, GA
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I'm not contradicting you. But some of the HOAs will lawyer up and find ways to maintain control of a community that is attempting to oust them. My neighbor told me that our community had been trying for quite some time to get rid of this one, but it keeps finding loop holes.

But an HOA management company seems to be able to just behave however they want with regard to someone else's property, including acting as judge, jury and enforcer. They serve a purpose for sure. But there needs to be checks, balances and accountability somewhere IMHO.
Do you elect the members of the HOA board? If so then that is the accountability. The management company works for the HOA, and the HOA board should be able to replace them if it wants.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:00 PM
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I'm not contradicting you. But some of the HOAs will lawyer up and find ways to maintain control of a community that is attempting to oust them. My neighbor told me that our community had been trying for quite some time to get rid of this one, but it keeps finding loop holes.

Its hard to believe that a country of laws would allow an industry to behave unchecked this way. If I screw up, the consumer has my broker, the GA Real Estate Commission and other ways to be made whole again. But an HOA management company seems to be able to just behave however they want with regard to someone else's property, including acting as judge, jury and enforcer. They serve a purpose for sure. But there needs to be checks, balances and accountability somewhere IMHO.
If you have a failing subdivision, the developer may be able to keep control. Usually there is some provision that hands over management when something like 50% of the units are sold.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:20 PM
 
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Because its so amazingly wrong?

We had a management company that wasn't performing and we got rid of them. We had managers and got the property management company to replace them.
The response was not wrong - the statement it was responding to was wrong.

"we" didn't do anything. The management company doesn't contract with the homeowners, it contracts with the HOA or condo corporation. The management company contracts with the HOA/condo corporation through the HOA/condo corporation board.

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Old 08-05-2017, 05:29 AM
 
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OP: How is this situation going?
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Old 08-05-2017, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Gwinnett County, Georgia
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OP: How is this situation going?
The last message was that they would send a board member out and let us know. That was about three weeks ago. No one has called, returned ours for an update, sent photos of the problem areas and there have been no letters since. So there I am out there after every rain inspecting and wiping down the most minor exterior stains in case the bullies attack again. We shouldn't have to live this way.
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Old 08-05-2017, 06:10 AM
 
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The last message was that they would send a board member out and let us know. That was about three weeks ago. No one has called, returned ours for an update, sent photos of the problem areas and there have been no letters since. So there I am out there after every rain inspecting and wiping down the most minor exterior stains in case the bullies attack again. We shouldn't have to live this way.
Thanks for the update.

Your situation has spooked me a bit. We were all set to purchase something with a HOA. Now we are leaning toward a SFH with no HOA.

Wishing you the best. Sounds like it may be time to list and get out of dodge. Just the sign in your yard may have the pressure from the HOA ease up?
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Old 08-05-2017, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Gwinnett County, Georgia
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We're just staying positive and hopeful that they'll leave us alone.

There are plenty of communities here in the metro with some fine HOAs and management firms. In fact, our next home will likely be in one of them, because we absolutely love our current neighbors. The kids play well together and the grownups seem to just be trying to be good, responsible, friendly neighbors who watch out for each other. We'll just have to be sure to research the HOA and management firm during the due diligence period.
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Old 08-05-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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If the thing continues and an appeal to the board does not correct the problem just pay the $150 and then take the HOA to small claims court. Tends to be very effective.

You need a more significant event to involve a lawyer. Generally the lawyer bills start at several hundred and get passed a thousand if anything actually is done.

And yes HOAs lose some. And, in some cases, the HOA has been very badly damaged by the loss. Can be as two edged sword though as the winning owner is still a member of the HOA and shares the loss.
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