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Old 07-31-2017, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Valdosta (Atlanta Native)
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Does anyone remember Scenic Highway when it was actually scenic? I'm sure it was before I was born, but I just want to know what the area was like.
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Old 08-01-2017, 03:43 AM
 
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And it didn't. The stretch of Sugarloaf between I-85 and PIB is no more congested today than it was 8 years ago. They really can't add much, Sugarloaf Country Club and other subdivisions account for most of the land. Development at Gwinnett Arena may make the area immediately around it interesting in the next few years, though.

But honestly, even when there is a big event going on, the police are really good at corralling cars into and out of the arena and keeping delays on Sugarloaf entirely manageable. They should train APD to do the same thing for Philips!
I travel that way during my work commute and will say that little stretch gets surprisingly busy during rush hour. I wasn't expecting it but it does see some heavy traffic.

For those events, I just go around them on McGinnis Ferry.
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Old 08-01-2017, 07:11 AM
 
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Does anyone remember Scenic Highway when it was actually scenic? I'm sure it was before I was born, but I just want to know what the area was like.
I remember when it was just a country road. Once you got past North Road there wasn't much of anything until you got to Lawrenceville.
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Old 08-01-2017, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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The whole stretch above US-78 to Sugarloaf Parkway is a disaster. 124 between 78 & Ronald Reagan is the absolute worst with all the lights and they still keep approving more businesses in the corridor.

I'm shocked with all the cameras that Gwinnett DOT has that they still can't make the road travelable during rush hour.
That's suburban sprawl the growth ponzi scheme that is needed to keep up with the infrastructure to low density areas. Gwinnett must keep adding new development to pay for maintenance of existing, but then they are just adding more infrastructure that will need to be maintained, by more growth. Until the growth stops, then the ponzi scheme comes crashing down.
https://www.strongtowns.org/the-growth-ponzi-scheme/
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Old 08-01-2017, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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That's suburban sprawl the growth ponzi scheme that is needed to keep up with the infrastructure to low density areas. Gwinnett must keep adding new development to pay for maintenance of existing, but then they are just adding more infrastructure that will need to be maintained, by more growth. Until the growth stops, then the ponzi scheme comes crashing down.
https://www.strongtowns.org/the-growth-ponzi-scheme/

Oh hey, someone else is posting it now! Good to see the message spreading.


Yeup, cars are an awful method of moving even moderately large numbers of people in confined spaces. Even worse, the projects they support just don't pay for the infrastructure needed to support them. Growth is a necessity to stay afloat, yet it can't be maintained, specially or economically.
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Old 08-01-2017, 05:54 PM
 
Location: City of Atlanta
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The only "scenic" part of that road now is seeing Alexander Park and the big oak tree in it as you're driving north toward Sugarloaf Parkway. (assuming it's still there. Haven't driven that road since 2013)
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