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Old 08-01-2017, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Downtown Marietta
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They built the Sky Train just to get people to rental cars...I'd say this is equally important.
The SkyTrain also serves the Convention Center. Moreover, the rental car center generates enormous amounts of add-on concession fees for the airport, probably more than enough to pay for the SkyTrain over 20 years or so.

To run a train from F to the main terminal that doesn't require people to go through security, they'd likely either have to tunnel under a mile and a half of active taxiways and concourses, or run the train along Loop Road for nearly five miles. Five miles above ground or a mile and a half under ground would cost substantially more than the 1.25 mile SkyTrain.

I agree that this would be a really useful enhancement, but given the likely very high cost, a MARTA extension branching off near Fort McPherson to F and onwards to Clayton seems more realistic to me.
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Old 08-01-2017, 09:32 PM
 
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You said passengers sometimes have to walk between the terminals. Couldn't a train just be built along whatever right of way pedestrians use? Or a moving sidewalk? Or little trams like the ones that take you from your car to the monorail at Disney World?
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Old 08-01-2017, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Downtown Marietta
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You said passengers sometimes have to walk between the terminals. Couldn't a train just be built along whatever right of way pedestrians use? Or a moving sidewalk? Or little trams like the ones that take you from your car to the monorail at Disney World?
There are indeed moving sidewalks for the passengers who have to walk from E to F. I wish they'd put a train in there, but even if they did, it wouldn't solve the problem of getting from F to the Main Terminal without having to be screened. They'd have to run that dedicated train all the way to the Main Terminal.
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Old 08-02-2017, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Realistically, when the Clayton Co Commuter Rail is built, Mountain View/Int'l Terminal should have a station. From there HJIA can run a shuttle bus from Int'L Terminal to the station. It's the cheapest and most efficient solution, until other airport amenities get built; more concourses for Int'l Terminal (page 8, http://www.atl.com/wp-content/upload...15_Spreads.pdf)
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Old 08-02-2017, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Valdosta (Atlanta Native)
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Off topic but is there a plan to FINALLY do something with those routes?
Studies will be finished in 2018 for Clayton. (Keep in mind that we had funded a commuter rail line for Clayton a decade ago but I digress...)
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Old 08-02-2017, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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Realistically, when the Clayton Co Commuter Rail is built, Mountain View/Int'l Terminal should have a station. From there HJIA can run a shuttle bus from Int'L Terminal to the station. It's the cheapest and most efficient solution, until other airport amenities get built; more concourses for Int'l Terminal (page 8, http://www.atl.com/wp-content/upload...15_Spreads.pdf)
I'm only cool with that line being commuter rail, if it looks and feels just like Denver RTD's A-Line, that connects their airport. With that same 15-minute frequency, and general rapidness.

If not, then the Clayton line should be HRT or LRT.

Metro Atlanta needs "commuter rail" that functions more like rapid transit, and less like regional rail that only leaves every half hour, with timetables and super long trains and etc. More like MARTA, less like Amtrak.
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Old 08-02-2017, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I'm only cool with that line being commuter rail, if it looks and feels just like Denver RTD's A-Line, that connects their airport. With that same 15-minute frequency, and general rapidness.

If not, then the Clayton line should be HRT or LRT.

Metro Atlanta needs "commuter rail" that functions more like rapid transit, and less like regional rail that only leaves every half hour, with timetables and super long trains and etc. More like MARTA, less like Amtrak.
I am sure MARTA will look at other Commuter rail lines in the US for examples, but it does need to be 2-way service during revenue hours, that mirrors rail headways.
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Old 08-02-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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How many passengers do the Plane Trains move per day?
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Old 08-02-2017, 09:37 AM
 
Location: MMU->ABE->ATL->ASH
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How many passengers do the Plane Trains move per day?
Around 300,000 Passengers and Staff per day.

(Maybe a little less for passengers that connect withing the same concourse, and walkers, and International (local) Passengers that get dumped into the Terminal and have to take the bus, Terminal T passengers that just walk out)

So probably around 250K per day.
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Old 08-02-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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Around 300,000 Passengers and Staff per day.

(Maybe a little less for passengers that connect withing the same concourse, and walkers, and International Passengers that get dumped into the Terminal and have to take the bus)

So probably around 250K per day.
Holy cow! That's about as much as the whole MARTA system.

They ought to run something like this from the Lindbergh MARTA station up to the Buckhead Village and on up to Lenox and Phipps.
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