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Old 04-19-2018, 08:59 PM
 
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:21 PM
 
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I personally also feel that the protection of certain communities does obstruct the progression of the Metro as a whole and its one of my biggest pet peeves about Atlanta because they would rather keep a few folks happy while millions others struggle through traffic.

I would have loved an I-675 inner by-pass to GA-400 (as what was originally planned) to avoid the Downtown Connector. I'm not really impressed by much of anything on the south side ITP within the original path of I-675 besides Moreland Ave, which is fairly decent for the area and has been up and coming for awhile.

Ponce De Leon area, I can kind of see being an issue...kind of...but there are several cities with freeways that plow right through fairly prestigious areas and trust me when I say..it didn't cause a huge issue.

The I-420 plan should have passed, there's nothing remotely interesting within its path.

The only original ITP freeway that I can logically see having serious issues is U.S. 78 / Stone Mountain Freeway yet during its conception a good portion of the land was already purchased. Would we have the prestigious area on Ponce as we do now? ...I would say...YES...however it may have been pushed further north toward Emory. The land is too close to Downtown to not have any significant value. Perhaps it would have been better though if U.S. 78 stayed near the Railroad Tracks like Decatur street currently follows coming slightly north to Freedom Pkwy just after Moreland Ave. I highly doubt that would have disrupted Ponce.

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Yes, this is too much. It would've destroyed Atlanta.

This is all Metro Atlanta needs...

*1. An Outer Perimeter that is further out than originally planned. It would "ring around" the exurbs. It would also serve as a connector/pathway for secondary areas of Georgia.

*2. An extension of 1-675 northward for:
A. A Spur to I-20
B. A Spur to Lakewood Freeway

3. An Atlanta-to-Rome-to-Huntsville-to Memphis interstate. It would come through Metro Atlanta from the northwest through Paulding County, southwest Cobb County, and far eastern Douglas County--it would follow 278/Thornton Road and connect with an extended Lakewood Freeway* in the Sandtown/Wolf Creek area*. We would then have a new interstate highway that starts in Stockbridge and goes all the way to Memphis (see #2 above)

4. Make 316 a limited access highway all the way to Athen just like GA 400. Rename it "GA 300."

*5. South Fulton Parkway becomes a limited access highway just like GA 400, stretching from the Airport/Hwy 14 all the way to Carrollton. Rename it "GA 100."

*6. A limited access highway just like GA 400, stretching from near where 41/Upper Riverdale Road meet I-75 all the way to Griffin. Call it "GA 200."

*7. The "Fayette Connector": An interstate spur that starts at Hwy 54 near Piedmont Fayette Hospital and then connects with I-85 near Flat Shoals Road or Red Oak Road.

8. Extend and connect the Ronald Reagan Parkway directly with I-85.



*These would be built with strict land preservation/greenspace preservation protocols. The highways would get built to be as minimally intrusive as possible. Similar to many limited access highways/parkways in affluent parts of the Northeast U.S...and GA 400 through a lot of Buckhead.

I wanted to note that I believe GA-300 already exists in central GA..

The route numbering for almost all of GA's freeways are cosigned in the 400 series with GA-316 being one of the few exceptions.

GA-400 is The Hospitality Highway
GA-401 is I-75
GA-402 is I-20
GA-403 is I-85
GA-404 is I-16
GA-405 is I-95
GA-406 is I-59 (Between Alabama and I-24)
GA-407 is I-285
GA-408 is I-475 (Macon bypass)
GA-409 is I-24 (for the brief time it spends in Georgia before re-entering TN)
GA-410 is U.S. 78 / Stone Mountain Freeway (I used to think that this was cosigned as GA-410 as a spur from GA-10 bypassing for Memorial Drive (which is GA-10))
GA-411 is I-185 (Columbus GA)
GA-412 is Albany's Bypass
GA-413 is I-675
GA-414 is secretly Langford Pkwy / Lakewood Fwy
GA-415 is I-520 (Augusta)
GA-416 is unassigned
GA-417 is I-575
GA-418 is unassigned
GA-419 is I-985 / GA 365
GA-420 is unassigned
GA-421 is I-516 (Savannah)
GA-422 is GA-10 Loop (Athens Bypass)

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To you, maybe. Welcome to the Atlanta forum. Did you take a wrong turn?
He was only merely making a comment based on what may currently be occuring. I personally cannot say what Amazon will or won't do however. I'm honestly not exactly excited about them coming here though, it's not because I'm against Atlanta but I see serious long term affects on commuting in general and Atlanta brushing it off while inviting even more industries here while doing nothing to fix our infrastructure. Not to mention I'm also uncertain what kind of salaries they may bring...if they're going to stick to the tradition of paying just enough to get by or if they intend on making serious impactful positions.

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Old 04-19-2018, 09:38 PM
 
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I personally also feel that the protection of certain communities does obstruct the progression of the Metro as a whole and its one of my biggest pet peeves about Atlanta because they would rather keep a few folks happy while millions others struggle through traffic.

I would have loved an I-675 inner by-pass to GA-400 (as what was originally planned) to avoid the Downtown Connector. I'm not really impressed by much of anything on the south side ITP within the original path of I-675 besides Moreland Ave, which is fairly decent for the area and has been up and coming for awhile.

Ponce De Leon area, I can kind of see being an issue...kind of...but there are several cities with freeways that plow right through fairly prestigious areas and trust me when I say..it didn't cause a huge issue.

The I-420 plan should have passed, there's nothing remotely interesting within its path.

The only original ITP freeway that I can logically see having serious issues is U.S. 78 / Stone Mountain Freeway yet during its conception a good portion of the land was already purchased. Would we have the prestigious area on Ponce as we do now? ...I would say...YES...however it may have been pushed further north toward Emory. The land is too close to Downtown to not have any significant value. Perhaps it would have been better though if U.S. 78 stayed near the Railroad Tracks like Decatur street currently follows coming slightly north to Freedom Pkwy just after Moreland Ave. I highly doubt that would have disrupted Ponce.




I wanted to note that I believe GA-300 already exists in central GA..

The route numbering for almost all of GA's freeways are cosigned in the 400 series with GA-316 being one of the few exceptions.

GA-400 is The Hospitality Highway
GA-401 is I-75
GA-402 is I-20
GA-403 is I-85
GA-404 is I-16
GA-405 is I-95
GA-406 is I-59 (Between Alabama and I-24)
GA-407 is I-285
GA-408 is I-475 (Macon bypass)
GA-409 is I-24 (for the brief time it spends in Georgia before re-entering TN)
GA-410 is U.S. 78 / Stone Mountain Freeway (I used to think that this was cosigned as GA-410 as a spur from GA-10 bypassing for Memorial Drive (which is GA-10))
GA-411 is I-185 (Columbus GA)
GA-412 is Albany's Bypass
GA-413 is I-675
GA-414 is secretly Langford Pkwy / Lakewood Fwy
GA-415 is I-520 (Augusta)
GA-416 is unassigned
GA-417 is I-575
GA-418 is unassigned
GA-419 is I-985 / GA 365
GA-420 is unassigned
GA-421 is I-516 (Savannah)
GA-422 is GA-10 Loop (Athens Bypass)



He was only merely making a comment based on what may currently be occuring. I personally cannot say what Amazon will or won't do however. I'm honestly not exactly excited about them coming here though, it's not because I'm against Atlanta but I see serious long term affects on commuting in general and Atlanta brushing it off while inviting even more industries here while doing nothing to fix our infrastructure. Not to mention I'm also uncertain what kind of salaries they may bring...if they're going to stick to the tradition of paying just enough to get by or if they intend on making serious impactful positions.

1. I-675 should still be extended northward to be connected with I-20 and the Lakewood Freeway.

2. GA 300 should be re-assigned to GA 316.

3. As or If Georgia builds a network of additional interstate-like freeways around the state (think Germany's Autobahn System), this will be the new "100" series. (GA 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900). A later post will/can explain.
 
Old 04-19-2018, 09:43 PM
 
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1. I-675 should still be extended northward to be connected with I-20 and the Lakewood Freeway.

2. GA 300 should be re-assigned to GA 316.

3. As or If Georgia builds a network of additional interstate-like freeways around the state (think Germany's Autobahn System), this will be the new "100" series. (GA 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900). A later post will/can explain.
It would take a MASSIVE re-work of the entire states routes designations as ALOT of the routes between 100 and 300 are already taken, a few of the 500's are also taken. I just can't see it happening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...a_(U.S._state)
 
Old 04-19-2018, 11:23 PM
 
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It would take a MASSIVE re-work of the entire states routes designations as ALOT of the routes between 100 and 300 are already taken, a few of the 500's are also taken. I just can't see it happening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...a_(U.S._state)

You are not understanding. I am just talking about eight additional interstate-like freeways/highways.

Only ones to be taken: 100, 200, 300, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900.

Nothing MASSIVE about that all. It could happen--easily.


The "hundred" series.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 07:06 AM
 
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You are not understanding. I am just talking about eight additional interstate-like freeways/highways.

Only ones to be taken: 100, 200, 300, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900.

Nothing MASSIVE about that all. It could happen--easily.


The "hundred" series.
Ah ok. I thought you meant the entire series of those routes (100 thru 199, 200 thru 299, ECT ECT).
 
Old 04-20-2018, 07:45 AM
 
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At this point we could make major improvements just by adding more east-west routes and they don't have to be massive highways.

Even just a arc the size and speed Peachtree industrial going from Duluth to Marietta for example would do wonders and probably cut commute times in half for many people because they can avoid the 285 altogether.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 07:50 AM
 
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At this point we could make major improvements just by adding more east-west routes and they don't have to be massive highways.

Even just a arc the size and speed Peachtree industrial going from Duluth to Marietta for example would do wonders and probably cut commute times in half for many people because they can avoid the 285 altogether.
It would probably only help if it was mostly limited access. There's several roads we can take to get between Gwinnett and Cobb but they are all plagued with suburban development and excessive traffic lights
 
Old 04-20-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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It would probably only help if it was mostly limited access. There's several roads we can take to get between Gwinnett and Cobb but they are all plagued with suburban development and excessive traffic lights
I am thinking like the portion of Peachtree Industrial from 285 all the way to the split going north. So yeah, limited access.
 
Old 04-20-2018, 09:22 AM
 
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In that case yeah. Peachtree Ind Blvd super arterial is one of my favorite highways in the metro. It handles traffic quite well over its grade separated interchanges. I-285 and Holcomb Bridge (it's nothern terminus and first traffic light) are the only exceptions as they are not grade separated.

I also noticed they made the exit for I-285 West has been made 2 lanes.
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