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Old 09-20-2017, 10:46 AM
 
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A standard 40 foot bus in 10.5 feet wide with mirrors. That leaves no space.
That's a good point.

It wouldn't surprise me if the lanes on Peachtree on that stretch between Peachtree Dunwoody and Club Drive are even narrower than 10 feet. I've seen those buses coming through there many a time and it's a tight squeeze.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:58 AM
 
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It's been proven that narrower lanes are safer because now people are forced to actually try to stay in the lanes. Think of it this way, ever been on a wide open highway with plenty of space? It's pretty easy to speed and wander.

Now ever been over a very narrow bridge with no shoulders or median. It's so narrow that it almost gives you an anxiety attack. Well you go slower by habit and are more attentive.

Really depends on the road and where it is, but narrower lanes aren't the bad idea they seem to be on the surface.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:54 PM
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MARTA's Xn40 buses are only 8.5 feet wide, and they seem to run just fine in narrow lanes like on Ponce.
Sounds like you don't drive on Ponce!
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:57 PM
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Where are you getting your specs from? MARTA uses New Flyer Xcelsior buses on most routes, specs: https://www.newflyer.com/index.php?o...d=2&Itemid=167
Current width is 102" or 8.5'
That's without mirrors.

https://nacto.org/publication/transi...idths-buffers/

Transit officials guide which is pro-street narrowing.
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Old 09-20-2017, 01:35 PM
 
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That's without mirrors.

https://nacto.org/publication/transi...idths-buffers/

Transit officials guide which is pro-street narrowing.
You forget to mention a part:
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Buffers shown here are not lane widths, but represent the operating envelope and minimum distance to adjacent objects when in motion, and can overlap with adjacent lanes.
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Old 09-20-2017, 03:40 PM
 
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I am okay with having buses come down these new slightly narrower lanes.

There aren't that many buses and it's easy enough to move over a smidgen if they need to get by.
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Old 09-20-2017, 07:18 PM
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You forget to mention a part:
No I didn't. I said buses were 10.5 ft with mirrors. I didn't mention the 11.5 ft that this guide recommends for buses.

And on Ponce there really isn't room to move over when that bus is 1-2 ft. in your lane and the people coming the opposite direction are on the line.
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Old 09-20-2017, 07:39 PM
 
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That a lot of posts about the width of rapid transit.
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Old 09-20-2017, 09:00 PM
 
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Sounds like you don't drive on Ponce!
When I'm down that way I'm usually on foot and above the street.

Of course, I can still see perfectly well that buses and cars manage to continue to move around just fine despite your insistence to the contrary.
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Old 09-21-2017, 12:16 AM
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When I'm down that way I'm usually on foot and above the street.

Of course, I can still see perfectly well that buses and cars manage to continue to move around just fine despite your insistence to the contrary.
And I guess bikes move around just fine despite the insistence to the contrary. Why do they need bike lanes? Things are just perfect as they are.
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