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Old 09-21-2017, 11:11 AM
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Houston tried that. We saw how well that worked out for them.
50 inches of rain in 3-5 days will flood anyplace. That is Atlanta (and Houston's) average annual rainfall.

No zoning allows a lot of the mixed use projects urbanists are so fond of that take months and years and connections to get done in cities with zoning. There's a trend to look at form based zoning as opposed to what most cities do now which is more restrictive.
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Old 09-21-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Amazon and others, too.

Yet another reason for the business community to contribute to transit funding.
Uber and Lyft are by far the worst offenders.
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:12 PM
 
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Most people, including the big developers, seem to be in favor of the parking maximums. However, some folks say the new parking maximums are another attempt to slow down development in Buckhead.

Inside The Proposal To Fix Buckhead's Traffic Problems With Less Parking
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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Great quote from the article:

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RADCO Cos. CEO Norman Radow echoed those sentiments, and said he was skeptical that the ordinances would really reduce traffic in Buckhead at all. RADCO has no potential developments in Buckhead, he said.

But the developer said he is discovering that his residents in the apartments around Buckhead and other urban areas are not forgoing car ownership despite transit and the revolution of shared transportation providers. “In general, we are not finding that Uber or Lyft are having a dramatic change in the number of cars per bed. It's being used a lot, but it's not affecting people's desire to own a car,” he said. “I think it's political chest-pounding. But I think it has no impact on the problem they say they're trying to solve. This is a poorly thought-out, feel-good policy that won't impact what they're trying to get to.”

Radow also said there is a trend of people getting roommates and adding more heads per unit, especially at a time when apartment rents are reaching record levels inside the city. Reducing the number of spaces residents will have, especially for guests and roommates, will only make those future apartment projects less appealing to renters. Instead, Radow said he would like to see a more comprehensive plan to address congestion in Buckhead that could potentially include light rail, wider streets and projects that would change traffic patterns, perhaps even in conjunction with a reduction in parking ratios. “My view is build the freaking infrastructure and don't hide behind things like this,” he said. “Solve the problem fundamentally instead of tinkering around the edges.”
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Instead, Radow said he would like to see a more comprehensive plan to address congestion in Buckhead that could potentially include light rail, wider streets and projects that would change traffic patterns, perhaps even in conjunction with a reduction in parking ratios. “My view is build the freaking infrastructure and don't hide behind things like this,” he said. “Solve the problem fundamentally instead of tinkering around the edges.”
So...where is this space for these "wider streets" going to come from?
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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“In general, we are not finding that Uber or Lyft are having a dramatic change in the number of cars per bed. It's being used a lot, but it's not affecting people's desire to own a car,”
I mean, this pretty much says absolutely everything....
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Old 09-29-2017, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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No issue with using Downtown and Midtown parking ratios in our other business district
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In essence, the proposed ordinance will take similar parking ratios found in Downtown Atlanta's zoning districts and impose them in sections in Buckhead.

Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/atlanta/news/...medium=Browser
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:13 PM
 
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That sheds light on it. I mean, the maximums are reasonable....everyone living in an apartment should have enough parking for themselves, it would just be problematic for their guests when they have them.

But I think this makes it totally unfair:

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There are exceptions: new eating and drinking establishments are exempt.
Soooo....build a restaurant or bar and you can have as much parking as you like, but build an apartment and you have to limit it???? I mean, who causes more congestion on Peachtree, apartments or restaurants? Most of the time when I see lines of cars spilling out onto Peachtree, it's because they are waiting to valet at some restaurant. Why not force them to bring their valet stations further in so their lines don't spill into the street? That would be better than limiting guest parking at apartments, which doesn't seem like it would do much to curb traffic, but would annoy residents.
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:25 PM
 
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That sheds light on it. I mean, the maximums are reasonable....everyone living in an apartment should have enough parking for themselves, it would just be problematic for their guests when they have them.

But I think this makes it totally unfair:



Soooo....build a restaurant or bar and you can have as much parking as you like, but build an apartment and you have to limit it???? I mean, who causes more congestion on Peachtree, apartments or restaurants? Most of the time when I see lines of cars spilling out onto Peachtree, it's because they are waiting to valet at some restaurant. Why not force them to bring their valet stations further in so their lines don't spill into the street? That would be better than limiting guest parking at apartments, which doesn't seem like it would do much to curb traffic, but would annoy residents.
We should not be building extra spaces for potential guest. That's like paying the premium cost for a house with a spare bedroom, in case of guest. Apartment guests can park in the visitor spaces, on the street, around the corner, or use alternative transportation.
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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We should not be building extra spaces for potential guest. That's like paying the premium cost for a house with a spare bedroom, in case of guest.
That's just, like, your opinion, man. Most people DO buy houses with guest rooms!

But, anyway, even if you're correct....that's really the renters' problem, isn't it? I mean, it just drives up the price of their rent, but it doesn't impact anybody else so long as the parking is in a deck, who cares if that deck is 4 stories high or 5? The argument here is trying to solve a traffic problem. I don't see how limiting how many guests can visit a renter impact that. How much traffic on Peachtree do you think is caused by people visiting friends who rent apartments there?
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