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Old 09-27-2017, 08:16 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Downtown/Midtown, fricking on top of Phillips Arena, that doesn't matter. Stop dissecting my post as my point is still the same. We just took a self contained problem and let it out all over the city. Been telling y'all for years the homeless folks at P&P were the same people who used to hang out around Techwood, they tore that down and they just moved east to P&P. We're not solving the problem, all we are doing is kicking the can down the road.
So it would've been better to keep the status quo for another 20 years? Peachtree-Pine was a cancer, ask anyone that lived/worked within 5 blocks of the warehouse how "self-contained" it really was.

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And please tell me how taking a contained problem and letting it loose on the whole city is helping anything?
Because now this city will have to actually confront the problem rather than having those homeless be hidden away in a TB-infested hellhole (which was kicking the can as well).
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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Then the city needs to get off of its ass and fix the problem.
Easy to say, but the question is how?

Social worker friends tell me that the only way someone ends up in a place like that shelter is if they fall out of the social welfare system, generally because they can't stay off drugs or refuse to take medications that keep their mental illnesses in check. So how do you solve that?
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:28 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Easy to say, but the question is how?

Social worker friends tell me that the only way someone ends up in a place like that shelter is if they fall out of the social welfare system, generally because they can't stay off drugs or refuse to take medications that keep their mental illnesses in check. So how do you solve that?
Admittedly, and sadly, I have no idea.
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I hope you all don't get the Hep A problem we have now in S Cal.
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:47 AM
 
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I bike through there everyday, there have always been some homeless people, but nowhere near the extent that are there now. The police did clear it out, but that didn't last for too long. The number of homeless people there before it was cleared out was much less than now. Over the past month or so, there has been an exponential increase in people sleeping and using the bathroom under that overpass.
I live in that area. On average about 30 people on each side normally sleep under the bridge. Didn't see a huge increase
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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So it would've been better to keep the status quo for another 20 years? Peachtree-Pine was a cancer, ask anyone that lived/worked within 5 blocks of the warehouse how "self-contained" it really was.



Because now this city will have to actually confront the problem rather than having those homeless be hidden away in a TB-infested hellhole (which was kicking the can as well).
I agree with that. The city does need to confront the issue, I just approach things from a different angle. On a larger picture type deal I don't think America will ever fully confront problems like these in order to really fix them. But that's a different topic for a different thread. For us locally I don't see a city like Atlanta that had an area like Buttermilk Bottoms still up and popping as recently as the 1960's, really doing anything to effectively fight this issue so my whole deal is why keep moving the problem around? If you're not going to fix it totally just keep the issue where it is and work around it
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Too bad the old Butler Street YMCA can't be repurposed to help the situation.

Maybe that building has too hallowed a history to be used in that way though.
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Old 09-27-2017, 01:20 PM
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Too bad the old Butler Street YMCA can't be repurposed to help the situation.

Maybe that building has too hallowed a history to be used in that way though.
Are they still planning on turning the Y into a concert hall? I haven't heard anything or seen any activity over there in a long time.

https://atlanta.curbed.com/2016/12/1...venue-downtown
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Downtown/Midtown, fricking on top of Phillips Arena, that doesn't matter. Stop dissecting my post as my point is still the same. We just took a self contained problem and let it out all over the city. Been telling y'all for years the homeless folks at P&P were the same people who used to hang out around Techwood, they tore that down and they just moved east to P&P. We're not solving the problem, all we are doing is kicking the can down the road. And please tell me how taking a contained problem and letting it loose on the whole city is helping anything?

Edit- I was born right across the street at Crawford Long, which is now Emory Midtown, so you may not see it as Midtown, but clearly some of us do
Hear, hear. The city needs to take a hard look at how it manages its homeless situation. I wish this would become a bigger deal in the mayoral race.
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Old 09-28-2017, 01:13 AM
 
Location: In your feelings
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And please tell me how taking a contained problem and letting it loose on the whole city is helping anything?
It's a problem either way, but before it was a problem you only knew about if you lived or work in the immediate vicinity of Peachtree and Pine St. There is no good kind of homelessness and it should be a major issue in the mayoral race (it's weird that affordable housing is, but homelessness is barely mentioned) but isolating it to one area didn't do anything and that shelter wasn't helping anyone who lived there; the problem isn't worse than it was 6 months ago, it's only more visible.
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