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Old 10-10-2017, 11:02 AM
 
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As I've said before...I really don't care what they use. Monorails. Trains. Elevated buses. Sky buckets. Chair lifts. It really makes no difference, but I do know this.....if we don't get something to help people get off the roads within the next 15-20 years, we're going to choke to death on our own traffic and become like late 90s Detroit. Believe it.
Atlanta could build some transit in expressways with stations there and park n ride locations. No new expressway should be built without transit also. Existing tracks utilized.

A city like Chicago utilized this. With some lines down its expressways. Its L line from O'Hare goes a 1/3 or more the way to downtown in the middle of the expressway and the train moves faster then traffic most times.... I use it on my visits whether from O'Hare or Midway airports.

Video Shows expressway portion of Chicago's Blue L line O'Hare toward downtown and park n ride station along it after O'Hare. Could Atlanta have a in-expressway similar line added?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YUKsbAeklo

Also why more Amtrak-like trains are not used for suburb to downtown commuting? Too bad Atlanta lost a couple of its former train stations downtown.

Missed opportunities some quenched over the years that could have been in use today ...
Seven commuter routes were proposed to serve the Atlanta suburbs and nearby cities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Rail_Passenger_

Apparently some still are possible.
Georgia View: All Aboard the Brain Train - Georgia Trend

Excerpt:
- Although new “high-speed” rail corridors may remain an impractical pipe dream, commuter rail along existing rail beds is an affordable and practical fast-track option to expanding transportation and transit options across the state.

Suburban Chicago is served by such Amtrak commuter service from suburbs to downtown Chicago. More Comfortable then the L even.

It is UNLIKELY a US city will do a Dubai or Bangkok fully elevated line. But other options other then trolleys EXIST TOO.
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Old 10-10-2017, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Atlanta could build some transit in expressways with stations there and park n ride locations. No new expressway should be built without transit also. Existing tracks utilized.

A city like Chicago utilized this. With some lines down its expressways. Its L line from O'Hare goes a 1/3 or more the way to downtown in the middle of the expressway and the train moves faster then traffic most times.... I use it on my visits whether from O'Hare or Midway airports.

Video Shows expressway portion of Chicago's Blue L line O'Hare toward downtown and park n ride station along it after O'Hare. Could Atlanta have a in-expressway similar line added?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YUKsbAeklo

Also why more Amtrak-like trains are not used for suburb to downtown commuting? Too bad Atlanta lost a couple of its former train stations downtown.

Missed opportunities some quenched over the years that could have been in use today ...
Seven commuter routes were proposed to serve the Atlanta suburbs and nearby cities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Rail_Passenger_

Apparently some still are possible.
Georgia View: All Aboard the Brain Train - Georgia Trend

Excerpt:
- Although new “high-speed” rail corridors may remain an impractical pipe dream, commuter rail along existing rail beds is an affordable and practical fast-track option to expanding transportation and transit options across the state.

Suburban Chicago is served by such Amtrak commuter service from suburbs to downtown Chicago. More Comfortable then the L even.

It is UNLIKELY a US city will do a Dubai or Bangkok fully elevated line. But other options other then trolleys EXIST TOO.
Atlanta is well aware of this build out, as the Red Line thru Buckhead is built in the GA 400 median.
https://goo.gl/maps/sQoCzmNWDsP2
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Old 10-10-2017, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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I think it would be really cool and really helpful to have an elevated 2-way monorail line built along I-75, from KSU to Arts Center, via Town Center, Marietta, Cumberland, West Paces Ferry, Howell Mill, and Atlantic Station. With park&ride at most stations, and TOD developments.

I'm sure it would be much cheaper than heavy rail, due to no tunnels needed, and as few and as small as possible support beams.

Also, it would be the least noisy solution, thereby reducing NIMBY knee-jerk reactions, particularly in Buckhead.

But, just like everything we could dream up, nothing ever gets actually built around here. Just decades and decades of "studies", until we all die of old age or the planet becomes uninhabitable.
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Old 10-10-2017, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Lake Spivey, Georgia
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Feasible, perhaps, along the top end perimeter from the Cumberland/ Galleria area to Perimeter Center joining with the MARTA line at Perimeter Center. Anything else, not feasible in the near future.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:16 AM
 
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What is the difference, in your mind, between this idea and existing MARTA HRT on aerial structures?
I just personally believe that it would receive more positive feedback than a MARTA rail through the same neighborhoods.

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Atlanta is well aware of this build out, as the Red Line thru Buckhead is built in the GA 400 median.
https://goo.gl/maps/sQoCzmNWDsP2
Agreed, but unfortunately it is not widely implemented. This configuration only exists for aproximately 5 - 6 miles where as cities like Chicago, San Francisco, New York, ect use this configuration for entire highway spans in urban areas. We really need this here too.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:10 PM
 
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Monorail may be worth a second look.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-0uVcsDrE
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Old 08-08-2018, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Monorail may be worth a second look.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-0uVcsDrE
I’ve always liked the idea.
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:24 AM
 
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As I've said before...I really don't care what they use. Monorails. Trains. Elevated buses. Sky buckets. Chair lifts. It really makes no difference, but I do know this.....if we don't get something to help people get off the roads within the next 15-20 years, we're going to choke to death on our own traffic and become like late 90s Detroit. Believe it.
Hyperbole much?

BTW, Detroit may not have transit, but it has one of (if not) the best arterial road systems in the country.

That's why, compared to its peer cities, it has the least amount of traffic congestion (which is also the least of its problems).

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Old 08-08-2018, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Monorail may be worth a second look.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-0uVcsDrE
Is that what 2000 looked like?
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:55 AM
 
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BTW, it took Los Angeles another 30-40 years from the time it was Atlanta's current size before it got a clue and started seriously investing in extensive rapid transit, yet the lack of transit in the mean time did not stop its rapid growth to 11 million people
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