City of Vista Grove: Here We Go Again (Atlanta, Tucker: low crime, neighborhoods)

[bu2]

Originally Posted by Forhall

Omg just join another city and be done with it. Do these people not understand economy of scale? Joining an existing city means immediate fire, police, schools, etc. Brookhaven finally has their act together, just join it.

What's the fear? The only people who push these new cities when they could one of the 5 other cities touching the proposed area are people who believe they will become mayor/city council of the new city. It's a power grab and the citizens of the area proposed are the chumps getting played.

What I don't understand is why Atlanta won't go for it. It's a fairly wealthy area with businesses. The metro should strive to grow it's boundaries and population, very few top tier cities have such a low population compared to their metro area.

Do you not understand diseconomies of scale? Just look at Atlanta. Look at DeKalb Schools.

The area they have been talking about voted overwhelmingly for La Vista Hills. The city narrowly failed because they went too far south (below the RR tracks) and got a number of areas that had no interest. Plus they had a couple of leaders who rubbed everyone the wrong way. Those two are not involved.

The biggest issue seems to be police protection. Atlanta and DeKalb police have no interest in property crime. They've got bigger fish to fry. If your house or car is broken into, they basically just log it and move on.

They did talk to Chamblee last year, but I think Chamblee got pushback from residents who didn't want them expanding beyond 85. Decatur isn't interested. Tucker isn't really a city. They are "city-lite" and just have minimal services and rely on DeKalb police.

[bu2]

And this isn't really a new initiative. They set it up shortly after the LaVista Hills vote failed, looking for a smaller area among the neighborhoods that favored change from the DeKalb status quo.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by Forhall

Omg just join another city and be done with it. Do these people not understand economy of scale? Joining an existing city means immediate fire, police, schools, etc. Brookhaven finally has their act together, just join it.

What's the fear? The only people who push these new cities when they could one of the 5 other cities touching the proposed area are people who believe they will become mayor/city council of the new city. It's a power grab and the citizens of the area proposed are the chumps getting played.

What I don't understand is why Atlanta won't go for it. It's a fairly wealthy area with businesses. The metro should strive to grow it's boundaries and population, very few top tier cities have such a low population compared to their metro area.

The "fear" is at being absorbed into a city with limited financial resources, a hunger for more revenue, and one faced with the inevitability of further burdening the taxpayers. Not to mention that Brookhaven's aggressive policing of their southern neighborhoods and organized efforts to redevelop the Buford Corridor (which they never wanted in the first place, but had to take at the behest of the state)indicate their earnest desire to 'reverse' the diversity trend.
Thirdly, thus far Brookhaven has shown little interest in the welfare of those of in adjacent neighborhoods south of I-85, except for how we can be used for their agenda. They certainly don't seem to be bothered by the devastating impact the CHOA and EP plans will have on our infrastructure. It's that lack of concern that drew CHOA to them in the first place, hello? Damn the consequences, full speed ahead. Besides, the majority of voters in Brookhaven won't be the least bit affected, only the red-headed stepchildren that live south of the I-85 barrier.
The City of Brookhaven was originally conceived to be an island of vanilla prosperity, and they're still seeking ways to make that happen. Atlanta may be becoming sensitive to the issue of community displacement, but Brookhaven is its biggest cheerleader.

https://atlanta.curbed.com/2017/10/1...greenway-plans

https://brookhavenpost.co/2014/10/14...ment-strategy/

[bu2]

Originally Posted by Gulch

Maybe as far east as Clairmont Road. The rest of it could be split up between Chamblee, Doraville, and Tucker.

La Vista Hills mostly failed west of Clairmont and south of the RR tracks and passed in the north and east of the area, which is more or less the Lakeside HS zone.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by bu2

La Vista Hills mostly failed west of Clairmont and south of the RR tracks and passed in the north and east of the area, which is more or less the Lakeside HS zone.

I was referring to the "join existing city" scenario in response to Aries' proposal for the CoA to go all the way to the Northlake area (which would be way too far).

[Radical_Thinker]

What this city is called matters little to me - I'm just happy that we'll have another chance to join a city rather than being left out in the cold. Being part of a new city is far better than being screwed over by inept DeKalb County. I live in the area just north of Tucker and south of Doraville, neither of which has any interest at all in annexing us.

Sure hope this passes this time around.

[arjay57]

I'd say it's simply about self-determination and having a say in your own destiny.

Nobody wants to be under the thumb of some far off government bureaucrat who knows nothing of your issues and concerns, and could not care less.

In many cases those bureaucrats may not even live in the jurisdiction they are ruling.

[jero23]

Oh look, more balkanization of government resources. This area is looking more and more like Metro St. Louis, the land of 100s of jurisdictions, but does not possess any real source of revenue...

[JMatl]

Originally Posted by jero23

Oh look, more balkanization of government resources. This area is looking more and more like Metro St. Louis, the land of 100s of jurisdictions, but does not possess any real source of revenue...

Oh look, more people looking to separate themselves from the inept and corrupt DeKalb County Government in any way they can.

I live in DeKalb and love it, but I also totally get it.

[MattCW]

They aren't leaving Dekalb! Just because you form a new city or annex into an existing one doesn't remove Dekalb, it just adds another layer, and in the case of an Atlanta annexation, an even more corrupt one!