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Old 12-30-2017, 11:14 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Also, Jim Sanders was the go-to guy for fine wines in Atlanta in the old days.

I also like little hole-in-the-wall bars like Oscar's. I have had a drink in there serveral times while waiting for things at the laundromat next door.

Can little places like that make it in big time mixed use developments?
I think rents are the obvious impediment here. So, no, I don't think an upscale mixed-use development is going to be amenable to what are essentially small-scale, mom and pop (or should I say pop and pop?) operations like these bars.
Aries posed this question earlier:

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If those five gay bars were to relocate, where do you think they would go? Or, what do you think would happen to them?
Honestly, I don't have a clue; certainly nowhere intown. Look at the traditional haunts for gay-oriented businesses: Midtown, Ansley and Cheshire Bridge. Everything in those neighborhoods is in play, and rents are skyrocketing. A lot of these bar owners depend on keeping rents (and drink prices) relatively low.
Probably their best bet for relocation is to find marginal neighborhoods that are relatively close in, like South Atlanta or the Buford Corridor. And who knows how long that they will remain affordable?
I recalled this old thread while I was writing. Not a bad suggestion, really.

Stone Mountain area

You should visit the Historic Downtown Stone Mountain area yourself. The area code is 30083 and it's a hidden gem for safety and recreation. The small area is governed by local police who even have a free home check program for when you're away. Many people get this area confused with the greater Stone Mountain area which is not really safe. Just google Stone Mountain Village and call the visitor's center. The rents and housing prices are extremely reasonable. For safety, you have to look in the areas in the Historic section only... the numbered streets off of Main Street going towards the Stone Mountain Park. The area is also LGBT friendly with many establishments on James B. Rivers:

https://thegavoice.com/next-georgia-...tone-mountain/
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Old 12-30-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Wait a minute...$100 MILLION for 3 acres of park? I didn't catch that earlier. Atlanta seriously has much better things to spend that much money on.
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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Honestly, I don't have a clue; certainly nowhere intown. Look at the traditional haunts for gay-oriented businesses: Midtown, Ansley and Cheshire Bridge. Everything in those neighborhoods is in play, and rents are skyrocketing. A lot of these bar owners depend on keeping rents (and drink prices) relatively low.
Downtown Tucker would also be a great location. Very walkable and accessible and it seems like there are a zillion gay people living out that way these days. They've got a lively little bar and restaurant scene -- as well as an analogue to the Colonnade.
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Wait a minute...$100 MILLION for 3 acres of park? I didn't catch that earlier. Atlanta seriously has much better things to spend that much money on.
It's actually 13.8 acres. What you are referencing is just the 3.5 acre portion at the corner of Monroe & Piedmont.
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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Wait a minute...$100 MILLION for 3 acres of park? I didn't catch that earlier. Atlanta seriously has much better things to spend that much money on.
As I understand it, Atlanta is only contributing $20 million, the other $80 million is coming from private/public contributors
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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As I understand it, Atlanta is only contributing $20 million, the other $80 million is coming from private/public contributors
Besides, great Cities invest in quality of life improvements. It's what separates us from lesser places.
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:46 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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As I understand it, Atlanta is only contributing $20 million, the other $80 million is coming from private/public contributors
Yes, and that figure also includes redevelopment costs, I believe.
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Old 12-30-2017, 01:23 PM
 
Location: North Atlanta
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Very interesting.
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Old 12-30-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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They also noted that property values are only increasing in the area. The time was now to make the investment or never as it would only become more expensive
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Old 12-30-2017, 04:48 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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They also noted that property values are only increasing in the area. The time was now to make the investment or never as it would only become more expensive
Which makes total sense.
I've been wishing that corner would become a capstone on the park for some time. By making it happen, Mayor Reed has earned major respect points from me this week.
Keep in mind that this will also take ABG to a whole new level as well.
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