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View Poll Results: Should we have separate Atlanta forums for suburbs and city?
Yes. A ITP forum and a OTP forum . 4 9.52%
No. Keep it together. 33 78.57%
Yes. A Atlanta city limits forum and a suburbs forum. 3 7.14%
Maybe in a few years? 2 4.76%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-30-2018, 12:40 PM
 
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Ahhh, that is exactly the wrong reason to ‘separate’. No lecture intended, but coexisting with others is part of life. Not everyone to their comfy corners.

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A lot of posters have stated they have no reason to go to the suburbs. This would stop a lot of the surburb and city bickering.
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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The Subreddits kind of have this, and inevitably, the main city subreddit is the hub of activity and conversation, while the other subs don't have anywhere near as much traffic.

People, myself included, generally like hearing news from around the metro, even if it isn't from where I am, and the core city makes a convenient anchor place for that, since it's pretty equidistant from the whole metro.
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:54 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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No.
Where do you draw the line? Many of the interests and issues confronting the northern suburbs are different than those in the west, the south and the east. The only real thing they have in common are traffic and a location outside the Perimeter...oh, and the fact that they are all a part of the Atlanta metro.
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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No.
Where do you draw the line? Many of the interests and issues confronting the northern suburbs are different than those in the west, the south and the east. The only real thing they have in common are traffic and a location outside the Perimeter...oh, and the fact that they are all a part of the Atlanta metro.
Exactly.
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Nopers. City limits are fairly meaningless here.
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Old 03-30-2018, 02:12 PM
 
Location: City of Trees
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There's already a Charlotte forum.
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Old 03-30-2018, 04:19 PM
 
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Of the 33,048 threads in the Atlanta forum, 94 are ITP and 46 are OTP specified, respectively. With these figures, it is unlikely we will be splitting the Atlanta forum anytime soon.
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Old 03-31-2018, 07:08 PM
 
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Do you guys think there should be separate Atlanta suburbs sub-forum?

I feel like this would help a lot of people with questions as the conversations in the Atlanta forum often gear towards stuff ITP even though over 60% of metro lives OTP so people who have questions or want discuss things happening outside the city limits are left to wade through it all.



Maybe have two separate “Atlanta ITP” and an “Atlanta OTP” forums?

What do you think?
The proportion of the metro Atlanta population that lives OTP probably is significantly higher than 60%.

When Atlanta's 29-county MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) estimated 2017 population of 5,884,736 is figured into the equation along with ITP metro Atlanta's estimated population of over 750,000 (I'll say 800,000 to account for the increasingly robust population growth that has been occurring ITP since the end of the Great Recession), the proportion of the population of Atlanta's 29-county MSA who live OTP is very roughly estimated to be over 86%.

When Atlanta's 39-county CSA (Combined Statistical Area) estimated 2017 population of 6,555,956 is figured into the equation along with ITP metro Atlanta's estimated population of about 800,000, the proportion of the population of Atlanta's 39-county CSA who live OTP is very roughly estimated to be almost 88%.

But even with over 86% of Atlanta's estimated greater MSA population and nearly 88% of Atlanta's CSA population living outside of the I-285 Perimeter, the reason why it may seem to many onlookers and participants of this forum that many of the conversations on the Atlanta forum are often geared towards events happening ITP is because ITP metro Atlanta is the social, cultural, business, political and entertainment hub of the greater Atlanta region, the state of Georgia and the entire Southeastern U.S.

Like other posters have stated, ITP metro Atlanta (including the area inside of the city limits of Atlanta proper) is the anchor of this entire urban area, metro area, metro region and state.

To add to the importance of ITP metro Atlanta to the entire metro region and state, ITP metro Atlanta is the site of the seat of Georgia's state government (the Georgia State Capital) as well as the site of Georgia's number-one and most critically important economic asset and the busiest passenger airport on the entire planet, Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport.

What happens in ITP metro Atlanta affects the economic trajectory and quality-of-life of the entire greater Atlanta metro region and the state of Georgia, both for better and for worse. So when big and/or meaningful news breaks and/or meaningful events happen ITP (which obviously is very often and very frequently) it is going to be discussed because of the impact that it has on the entire greater Atlanta metro region and often the state of Georgia as a whole (which the greater Atlanta region increasingly dominates).

Atlanta ITP issues are metro Atlanta issues and Georgia issues.

Many posters who have been around the Atlanta forum for awhile likely will remember that this question of wanting to separate the Atlanta forum into two separate forums for ITP metro Atlanta and OTP metro Atlanta has come up before in the past.

While some people apparently might seem to think that there are not enough conversations geared towards OTP issues here on the Atlanta forum, there have been periods in the past when some ITPers might have felt kind of alienated about too much conversation seeming to be geared towards metro Atlanta's OTP suburbs, particularly on the Northside (something which also has tended to generate some feelings of alienation from Southside OTPers who feel that their area is often overlooked in favor of the Northside).

The conversations about OTP areas and ITP areas can ebb and flow here on the Atlanta forum as events necessitate.

Because of the ongoing economic and population boom within ITP metro Atlanta, it may seem to some that ITP is getting more attention than OTP right now. But OTP metro Atlanta has and will continue to get much attention and be the subject of many conversations because of the amount of development and population (and employers and attractions) that are located there.

OTP metro Atlanta will also continue to be the subject of a dominant amount of conversation here on the Atlanta forum because of the high proportion of newcomers to the Atlanta area that will be seeking an outer-suburban lifestyle even in this era of rising and exploding interest in inner-urban lifestyles by a growing proportion of the U.S. population.
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Old 03-31-2018, 07:45 PM
 
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I don't think so because I heard everyone tends to consider the suburbs Atlanta even if it's not Atlanta and so there wouldn't really be a reason to. Plus, I can't deal with the ITP people invading the OTP forums and constantly attacking OTP.
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Old 03-31-2018, 09:04 PM
 
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A lot of posters have stated they have no reason to go to the suburbs.
Residents of the urban core (including the inner-urban core) of a large major metro region expressing and asserting that they have no reason to go to the suburbs is not necessarily all that unusual overall and actually is and has been a pretty common attitude of inner-core urbanites in major city/metros with established urban neighborhoods like Chicago, Boston, New York and Washington D.C.

In New York, suburbanites who commute into Manhattan for work and entertainment from outlying areas like Long Island, New Jersey, Upstate New York and Connecticut are sometimes derisively denounced as "the Bridge-and-Tunnel Crowd" by some upscale Manhattan residents who may look down upon some of their suburban and exurban counterparts as being less cultured and less affluent.

Because of the I-495 Capital Beltway that rings the city, the Washington D.C. metro experiences an urban-suburban/exurban political/social/cultural split that is somewhat (but not exactly) similar to the ITP urban-OTP suburban/exurban political/social/cultural split that Atlanta experiences with its I-285 Perimeter superhighway.

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This would stop a lot of the surburb and city bickering.
In metro Atlanta, the bickering (and occasionally just outright hostility) that sometimes occurs between ITP urban posters and OTP suburban/exurban posters does not exist in a vacuum on the City-Data website but is reflective of the long-held real-life political, social and cultural tensions between deeply conservative suburban areas (like Cobb, North Fulton, Gwinnett counties, etc, which were at the forefront of the Republican Revolution of the late 20th and early 21st centuries) and rural Georgia and the very liberal/progressive/moderate-leaning urban core in the City of Atlanta (which was at the forefront of the Civil Rights Movement of the mid-late 20th Century).

That tension between the city and suburbs, while it may not be the most desirable or most attractive feature of the Atlanta forum, is a feature of real Atlanta life that drives the soul and motivates the passions of the Atlanta region and the state of Georgia, both for better and for worse.

That continuing real-life political/social/cultural tension between city and suburb/exurb is a very important feature of life in the Atlanta region and the state of Georgia and (as unpleasant as it may be sometimes) should be reflected on the online forums (like the City-Data Atlanta forum) that represents the area.
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