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Old 04-10-2018, 02:59 PM
 
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I think there's just no way to tell. In 10 years, the same folks who were dying to live intown may be wanting to move back to the burbs. Right now it seem to be Millennials who are pushing to move intown, but as these folks mature, a lot of them may start longing for bigger, more affordable housing with yards and less-busy streets where kids can safely walk and bike to schools at the same time they find themselves with less time and energy for frequenting trendy bars and restaurants.

As for the people displaced, they will move out to the suburbs and more rural areas--the same places which used to be too exclusive and expensive for them in the past. This has actually been happening for some time.

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I only agree with this if things stay stagnant. The reality is, however, that there will eventually come a tipping point where the CoA is safer than the suburbs. As city living gets more expensive and we get to a point where the cost of entry is prohibitive, we we will see crime rates drop and public schools increase in ranking. Meanwhile, as high earners leave suburbs to return to the now safer city with more amenities, we could see suburbs decline a bit.

Cost will always be a factor though.

Interesting how this second quoted post just ignores the people who can’t afford gentrification. You realize most people here can’t afford a 400k+ home and they will have go to the burbs right?

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Old 04-10-2018, 04:17 PM
 
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I think traffic is much more of an incentive to move to the city than trendiness—and traffic is not going to get any better any time soon.
Most commuting in the ATL is suburb to suburb, rather than suburb to central city.

So living in the city may or may not be an advantage with respect to traffic. It may be more convenient for some but for many it would result in a longer commute.
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Old 04-10-2018, 05:02 PM
 
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A scene from any other cluster in APS other than Grady.


https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/04...houses/557414/
There's a lot of truth in that. We have some fantastic neighborhoods both in our suburbs and within the city limits.

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Old 04-10-2018, 05:39 PM
 
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Most commuting in the ATL is suburb to suburb, rather than suburb to central city.

So living in the city may or may not be an advantage with respect to traffic. It may be more convenient for some but for many it would result in a longer commute.
The city core is the most job dense area in the region, so it really doesn't matter if "most" folks would not see and traffic advantage from living close to it, it only matters that a *whole lot* of folks would see a huge traffic advantage from living close to the city core, and that *whole lot* of folks is more than the city core is currently set up for.
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Old 04-10-2018, 06:23 PM
 
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Ridiculous thread. I see some of y'all don't travel much around Atlanta
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Old 04-10-2018, 06:49 PM
 
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The city core is the most job dense area in the region, so it really doesn't matter if "most" folks would not see and traffic advantage from living close to it, it only matters that a *whole lot* of folks would see a huge traffic advantage from living close to the city core, and that *whole lot* of folks is more than the city core is currently set up for.
Well, commute times in the suburbs are not dramatically different from those in the city. In some places you'll find a difference of a few minutes, but overall they are quite similar.

Athens: 19.5 minutes
Watkinsville: 23.0 minutes
Cartersville: 25.0 minutes
Sandy Springs: 25 minutes
Atlanta: 25.5 minutes
Elder: 25.8 minutes
Monroe: 26.1 minutes
Bogart: 26.5 minutes
Vinings: 26.5 minutes
Chamblee-Doraville: 26.6 minutes
Marietta: 27.4 minutes
Peachtree Corners: 27.5 minutes
Tucker: 28.6 minutes
Roswell-Alpharetta: 28.7 minutes
Smyrna: 28.8 minutes
Norcross: 29.4 minutes
Fair Oaks: 29.7 minutes
Northeast Cobb: 30.1 minutes
Suwanee-Duluth: 30.2 minutes
Canton: 30.5 minutes
Cumming: 30.6 minutes
Douglasville: 30.7 minutes
Lilburn: 30.7 minutes
Johns Creek: 31.1 minutes
Statham: 31.2 minutes
Winder: 31.2 minutes
Atlanta-Decatur: 31.6 minutes
Buford-Sugar Hill: 31.6 minutes
Mableton: 31.8 minutes
Lawrenceville: 32.0 minutes
Loganville: 32.4 minutes
Acworth-Kennesaw: 32.6 minutes
Austell: 32.6 minutes
Holly Springs: 32.9 minutes
Woodstock: 33.1 minutes
Dacula-Rocky Creek: 33.7 minutes
Powder Springs: 34.0 minutes
Auburn: 34.4 minutes
Dallas: 34.6 minutes
Bethlehem: 34.7 minutes
Snellville-Grayson: 35.9 minutes
Hiram: 36.8 minutes
Stone Mountain: 37.4 minutes
Lithonia: 38.1 minutes

https://patch.com/georgia/smyrna/44-...ed-first-worst
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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Well, commute times in the suburbs are not dramatically different from those in the city. In some places you'll find a difference of a few minutes, but overall they are quite similar.

Athens: 19.5 minutes
Watkinsville: 23.0 minutes
Cartersville: 25.0 minutes
Sandy Springs: 25 minutes
Atlanta: 25.5 minutes
Elder: 25.8 minutes
Monroe: 26.1 minutes
Bogart: 26.5 minutes
Vinings: 26.5 minutes
Chamblee-Doraville: 26.6 minutes
Marietta: 27.4 minutes
Peachtree Corners: 27.5 minutes
Tucker: 28.6 minutes
Roswell-Alpharetta: 28.7 minutes
Smyrna: 28.8 minutes
Norcross: 29.4 minutes
Fair Oaks: 29.7 minutes
Northeast Cobb: 30.1 minutes
Suwanee-Duluth: 30.2 minutes
Canton: 30.5 minutes
Cumming: 30.6 minutes
Douglasville: 30.7 minutes
Lilburn: 30.7 minutes
Johns Creek: 31.1 minutes
Statham: 31.2 minutes
Winder: 31.2 minutes
Atlanta-Decatur: 31.6 minutes
Buford-Sugar Hill: 31.6 minutes
Mableton: 31.8 minutes
Lawrenceville: 32.0 minutes
Loganville: 32.4 minutes
Acworth-Kennesaw: 32.6 minutes
Austell: 32.6 minutes
Holly Springs: 32.9 minutes
Woodstock: 33.1 minutes
Dacula-Rocky Creek: 33.7 minutes
Powder Springs: 34.0 minutes
Auburn: 34.4 minutes
Dallas: 34.6 minutes
Bethlehem: 34.7 minutes
Snellville-Grayson: 35.9 minutes
Hiram: 36.8 minutes
Stone Mountain: 37.4 minutes
Lithonia: 38.1 minutes

https://patch.com/georgia/smyrna/44-...ed-first-worst
When you are talking about commute times to the city core, these statistics are not very descriptive. Suppose 20% of the Metro’s workers work in the city core, and only 10% of Metro’s workers live a reasonable commute away from the city core—that leaves 10% of the Metro’s workers with lousy commutes to the Atlanta core every day— spread throughout all the metro counties. That 10% may not seem like a lot, but when taken as a fraction of the millions of metro workers it is very significant—significant enough to make ITP housing prices go nuts, and significant enough that demand will not be going down any time soon.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:32 AM
 
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When you are talking about commute times to the city core, these statistics are not very descriptive. Suppose 20% of the Metro’s workers work in the city core, and only 10% of Metro’s workers live a reasonable commute away from the city core—that leaves 10% of the Metro’s workers with lousy commutes to the Atlanta core every day— spread throughout all the metro counties. That 10% may not seem like a lot, but when taken as a fraction of the millions of metro workers it is very significant—significant enough to make ITP housing prices go nuts, and significant enough that demand will not be going down any time soon.
It won’t matter if most people can’t afford to live there anyway. Lol.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:34 AM
 
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Ridiculous thread. I see some of y'all don't travel much around Atlanta
Basically this. I wonder if some people ever leave the east-side or top-end of the ITP because it’s going to take way more than 10 years unless we land Amazon HQ2.

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Old 04-11-2018, 10:04 AM
 
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Interesting how this second quoted post just ignores the people who can’t afford gentrification. You realize most people here can’t afford a 400k+ home and they will have go to the burbs right?
Who will be forcing these people out to the suburbs? The Gestapo? There are plenty of homes in the CoA that are under 400k. What you really mean is people won't be able to live in hot exciting trendy neighborhoods which there is nothing wrong with. It isn't a right to live in any neighborhood.
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