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Old 04-21-2018, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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This is the beginning of the remake of the Buford Highway corridor...
Into Donna Reed Avenue!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB5TOsS5EyI
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:47 AM
 
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Bettie
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Old 04-21-2018, 10:56 AM
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Location: Atlanta
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Bettie moved across the City Line into Chamblee.
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Old 04-21-2018, 11:48 AM
 
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Bettie moved across the City Line into Chamblee.
The complete version with the domestic bliss intro:

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Old 04-21-2018, 12:03 PM
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And the defendants have to have a defense, in case you're having trouble following.
A club owner claiming he is discriminated against is not evidence. That's mere talking points. Just because something bad happens to a black person or establishment doesn't mean its discrimination. Bad things happen to other people and establishments.

The defendant doesn't have to have a defense if the plaintiff has no evidence.
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Old 04-21-2018, 12:07 PM
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Forget racism. We're talking about a violation of civil rights and taking punitive measures against a legal entity based on the suggestion that laws are being violated. I've yet to see tangible proof offered by Brookhaven's City Attorney, Chris Balch (who is quickly acquiring a reputation for playing it fast and loose with the state's Eminent Domain laws).

https://www.reporternewspapers.net/2...t-domain-case/
Brookhaven could ban alcohol sales by the drink entirely if they wanted to. Raising fees on certain types of business is perfectly within their rights. Are drinkers and smokers having their rights violated by the high taxes on liquor and cigarettes? Of course not.
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Old 04-21-2018, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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A club owner claiming he is discriminated against is not evidence. That's mere talking points. Just because something bad happens to a black person or establishment doesn't mean its discrimination. Bad things happen to other people and establishments.

The defendant doesn't have to have a defense if the plaintiff has no evidence.
So there is no problem with charging Vendor A $100K more for a license than you charge Vendor B because you "believe" Vendor A's presence in the community is leading to an increase in criminal activity. You could, using that rationale, charge lower income citizens an "enforcement fee" if you believe there is a correlation between poverty and crime. Good luck with that.
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Old 04-21-2018, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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Brookhaven could ban alcohol sales by the drink entirely if they wanted to. Raising fees on certain types of business is perfectly within their rights. Are drinkers and smokers having their rights violated by the high taxes on liquor and cigarettes? Of course not.
Apples and Oranges. That analogy makes no sense whatsoever. It would if by law Smoker A was charged more than Smoker B for the same product because crime is higher in Smoker A's neighborhood.

And did you miss the salient point of this thread, which is that COB used an arbitrary re-designation of their business in order to shake them down for $100K more in fees than their peers? No evidence of discrimination LOL.

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Old 04-21-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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Just playing around with common sense here...
I could see it if Brookhaven was charging ALL clubs the increased licensing fee to make Brookhaven a safer environment (because if they really cared about the safety of the city itself, everyone would be paying the fee as a deterrent toward this kind of activity in general.) But it does quite seem as though they are solo'ing out specific clubs without sufficient evidence proving their own case.
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Old 04-21-2018, 03:27 PM
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Just playing around with common sense here...
I could see it if Brookhaven was charging ALL clubs the increased licensing fee to make Brookhaven a safer environment (because if they really cared about the safety of the city itself, everyone would be paying the fee as a deterrent toward this kind of activity in general.) But it does quite seem as though they are solo'ing out specific clubs without sufficient evidence proving their own case.
There's nothing in the article that states that specific clubs get higher fees. Its implied, but not specifically stated, that all clubs get the higher fees.

"...City officials explained in hearings before the Alcohol Board that they came up with the $100,000 amount based on the $225,000 annual legal settlement the city reached in 2014 with the Pink Pony, a strip club that serves alcohol. As part of that settlement, the Pink Pony agreed to pay the police department $225,000 a year for six years to cover public safety costs, reimburse the city for its legal fees, donate land near the club along Peachtree Creek for the Peachtree Creek Greenway linear park, and contribute up to $75,000 for that park. The club is expected to close in Brookhaven in 2020.
The lawsuit points out that the Pink Pony is not affected by the alcohol ordinance rewrite and remains open until 4 a.m. and also open on Sundays, which it deems an unfair enforcement of the alcohol ordinance. The city states it is following a settlement agreement made four years ago.
“The Pink Pony operates under the terms and conditions of a settlement agreement approved by City Council in 2014. It should be noted that under that settlement, this establishment remits a quarter million a year to Brookhaven to operate,” Brennan said.
Rush Lounge, on Buford Highway and represented by attorney Alan Begner, has also appealed the Alcohol Board’s denial of its alcohol license renewal, stating the $100,000 fee is illegal. That venue is not part of the federal lawsuit.
The city charges a $4,000 fee to sell liquor on premises for restaurants, dinner theaters and event venues. The charge to these categories to sell wine or beer is approximately $1,000."
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