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Old 04-24-2018, 06:25 PM
 
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So you've established that Brookhaven has a vastly diverse amount of minority club owners and that no white people own clubs.

You've also established that Brookhaven has no other night clubs other than those on Buford Hwy.

Very observant.

Where do we get the pitchforks?
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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So you've established that Brookhaven has a vastly diverse amount of minority club owners and that no white people own clubs.
Rubbish, I said no such thing. Of course they do. But apparently no clubs that have a majority white clientele have yet been targeted with the additional fee. No club off Buford Highway has, either.

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You've also established that Brookhaven has no other night clubs other than those on Buford Hwy.
Again, I said no such thing. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

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Very observant.
No, you're really not if you're so grossly misinterpreting what I've stated so far.
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Where do we get the pitchforks?
Won't a golf club do?
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Old 04-25-2018, 05:34 AM
 
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Oh, right, you've also already established that City of Brookhaven is really just a hate group.

Icon, which clubs in Brookhaven have a majority white clientele?

Icon, which clubs in Brookhaven are not on Buford Hwy?

So since these clubs are all minority owned and on Buford Hwy Brookhaven should just ignore any resource problems they cause because saying anything or implementing any policy is just racist.

So you are all for increased taxes to subsidize the existence of these clubs? (even though you don't live here)
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Old 04-25-2018, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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Oh, right, you've also already established that City of Brookhaven is really just a hate group.

Icon, which clubs in Brookhaven have a majority white clientele?

Icon, which clubs in Brookhaven are not on Buford Hwy?

So since these clubs are all minority owned and on Buford Hwy Brookhaven should just ignore any resource problems they cause because saying anything or implementing any policy is just racist.

So you are all for increased taxes to subsidize the existence of these clubs? (even though you don't live here)
My dear, you're really not making sense at this point. Get some rest.
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Old 04-25-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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The issue of strip clubs in suburban areas has actually been one of the reasons behind the efforts to form municipalities in incorporated areas surrounding the City of Atlanta. People forget that the strip clubs (like the Coronet Club on Roswell Rd.) were one of the motivations for Sandy Springs to become a city, so that they could enforce zoning whereas before incorporation, Fulton County was perceived to be lax in allowing adult entertainment businesses and lax on zoning in general.


The City of Smyrna was the first municipality to pass an ordinance which prohibited alcohol to be served in a strip joint.


Ultimately, these suburban towns believe that their residents are not the majority of the patrons at these establishments and these establishments have crime issues of their own - remember all of the Gold Club scandals back in the 1990's? Therefore, they see little incentive to give licenses to these businesses and they see little benefit to the residents of their respective cities. Why should they have their police officers be spending time addressing issues with these clubs who are attracting non residents?


The issue isn't race, it's the City Councils don't want these strip clubs in their backyards. If the majority of the citizens of Brookhaven and Sandy Springs were regulars, they wouldn't bother them. A similar example is the former bar district where the present Shops of Buckhead/Atlanta is located. The wealthy residents nearby didn't frequent these bars. There were 9 murders within a three year period in that area, therefore, the residents nearby pushed to have the bars closed and the result is that the property owner sold them all and the Shops of Buckhead are there today which caters to the neighborhood a lot more than the bars and clubs that were there in the 1990's.
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Old 04-25-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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The issue of strip clubs in suburban areas has actually been one of the reasons behind the efforts to form municipalities in incorporated areas surrounding the City of Atlanta. People forget that the strip clubs (like the Coronet Club on Roswell Rd.) were one of the motivations for Sandy Springs to become a city, so that they could enforce zoning whereas before incorporation, Fulton County was perceived to be lax in allowing adult entertainment businesses and lax on zoning in general.


The City of Smyrna was the first municipality to pass an ordinance which prohibited alcohol to be served in a strip joint.


Ultimately, these suburban towns believe that their residents are not the majority of the patrons at these establishments and these establishments have crime issues of their own - remember all of the Gold Club scandals back in the 1990's? Therefore, they see little incentive to give licenses to these businesses and they see little benefit to the residents of their respective cities. Why should they have their police officers be spending time addressing issues with these clubs who are attracting non residents?


The issue isn't race, it's the City Councils don't want these strip clubs in their backyards. If the majority of the citizens of Brookhaven and Sandy Springs were regulars, they wouldn't bother them. A similar example is the former bar district where the present Shops of Buckhead/Atlanta is located. The wealthy residents nearby didn't frequent these bars. There were 9 murders within a three year period in that area, therefore, the residents nearby pushed to have the bars closed and the result is that the property owner sold them all and the Shops of Buckhead are there today which caters to the neighborhood a lot more than the bars and clubs that were there in the 1990's.
David, you are IMO 100% correct in your assessment; I think that's exactly what's going on here. The problem is that many of these businesses peacefully co-existed with the local government before the cities were formed. Now the political landscape has changed and they are no longer deemed desirable to the status quo.
"Community Sanitation" is a priority for Brookhaven, just as it is for Sandy Springs and Dunwoody.
Take your Un-Waspish behavior elsewhere.
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Old 04-25-2018, 03:55 PM
 
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The plaintiffs will struggle to provide legal proof that they were singled out because they are black. On the other hand I'm sure the PD can provide some evidence that the clubs had a lot of call outs compared to others. I'm not saying what Brookhaven is doing is right. I'm just pointing out who has the advantage in evidence gathering. All the plaintiffs really have is hoping there is something in emails or files.
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Old 04-25-2018, 04:19 PM
 
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David, you are IMO 100% correct in your assessment; I think that's exactly what's going on here. The problem is that many of these businesses peacefully co-existed with the local government before the cities were formed. Now the political landscape has changed and they are no longer deemed desirable to the status quo.
"Community Sanitation" is a priority for Brookhaven, just as it is for Sandy Springs and Dunwoody.
Take your Un-Waspish behavior elsewhere.

One clarification I would make is that I'm not sure the term WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant) applies to Eva Galambos, the mother of the Sandy Springs movement and the city's first mayor - Galambos was Jewish as is a significant portion of Sandy Springs. Galamabos began the effort to incorporate SS back in the 1960's after the failed attempt by Atlanta Mayor William Hartsfield to annex SS (in order to keep a white majority in the City of Atlanta). Galambos was steadfast in her efforts for almost 40 years until the Georgia Legislature passed a law in 2005 allowing for new municipalities to form. Soon after this law was passed, SS was the first of what would become many new cities in the north Atlanta suburbs.
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Old 04-25-2018, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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One clarification I would make is that I'm not sure the term WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant) applies to Eva Galambos, the mother of the Sandy Springs movement and the city's first mayor - Galambos was Jewish as is a significant portion of Sandy Springs. Galamabos began the effort to incorporate SS back in the 1960's after the failed attempt by Atlanta Mayor William Hartsfield to annex SS (in order to keep a white majority in the City of Atlanta). Galambos was steadfast in her efforts for almost 40 years until the Georgia Legislature passed a law in 2005 allowing for new municipalities to form. Soon after this law was passed, SS was the first of what would become many new cities in the north Atlanta suburbs.
Well, to put a fine point on it.
But I still think the aforementioned suburbs are of the same mindset, hence their formation.
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Old 04-27-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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Well, the saga continues.
According to the city attorney, Stages, Dance Floors and DJs pose a threat to the community.

https://www.reporternewspapers.net/2...l-license-fee/
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