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Old 04-23-2018, 09:41 PM
 
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You couldn't be more absolutely clueless if you tried.
Must be. But you are not going to bother to clarify your double standard I assume.
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Old 04-23-2018, 09:56 PM
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Location: Atlanta
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Must be. But you are not going to bother to clarify your double standard I assume.
After having labeled me as everything from a racist to a now a sprawl monger simply because you disagree with my opinions, I don't owe you a damn thing.

Not only can you not be reasoned with, you instantly resort to personal attacks. You disgust me.
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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So you have no problem with the out of control deforestation going on. Got it.
I am not sure where you got that from? How is this 1 street subdivision a forest? I support saving Ormewood Forest, but also support Grant Park Gateway and parking garage development because of critical thinking.
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:08 AM
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I don't see legalizing more housing types as "more regulation". I would consider it "less regulation" if anything. But honestly, it is more just a change. Going to a more form-based zoning than what we have now.

I think they should be legal to build basically anywhere one desires, but reality is single family homes in city centers are just never going to be very economical. That is why legalizing thing like 2 to 10 unit places and ADUs are so important, it can allow people to stay in their homes by bringing in additional streams of income to cover the mortgage and at the same time add affordable units to the area for new families.

EDIT: Ryan directly says "loosen regulations". I am not sure where you are getting "more regulation" from.
"...We can also support related efforts to expand affordable housing, knowing that both investments and regulation are required to achieve density that is truly diverse...."
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:27 AM
 
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JMatl, you seem to have no problem with trees getting cut down when it was in Piedmont Park or Grant Park for a new parking deck:

The double-standard palpable.
One big difference here: the Grant Park project creates additional green space and has plans to plant dozens, if not more than 100, new trees. The Piedmont Park deck involved cutting down only a handful of trees, but it is now surrounded by them. A typical townhome development is clear cut with no trees planted. Where my home sits now used to be pure forest 15 years ago. It was clear cut, and I think they planted maybe 15 trees in the median. Not technically a double standard when you think about it.
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:33 AM
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Location: Atlanta
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I am not sure where you got that from? How is this 1 street subdivision a forest? I support saving Ormewood Forest, but also support Grant Park Gateway and parking garage development because of critical thinking.
You probably aren't familiar with this particular street cq, but there are some huge, towering trees there. This is a typical 1950's era DeKalb brick ranch large lot neighborhood, with a lush tree cover. If the developer could save only 10% of them, it would make an amazing difference when the townhomes are built. They won't even try though, as he as already stated.
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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You probably aren't familiar with this particular street cq, but there are some huge, towering trees there. This is a typical 1950's era DeKalb brick ranch large lot neighborhood, with a lush tree cover. If the developer could save only 10% of them, it would make an amazing difference when the townhomes are built. They won't even try though, as he as already stated.
When a developer sees a tree, his brain interprets it as an incursion into his projected profit. Period.
And what's with this "Cut down the mature trees, we'll just plant seedlings" business? What utter nonsense.
We can't depend on municipal governments to protect tree cover, obviously. Civic associations are having to step in, establishing conservancies and land trusts to negotiate with developers to set aside areas to be protected. They are already achieving results with this approach.

http://www.medlockpark.org/2017/03/c...uid-hills.html

http://georgiaalabamalandtrust.org/p...a-mcconaughey/

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Old 04-24-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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It wouldn't be that big a burden to require the developer to put in half a dozen good sized trees. Give them 10 years and they'll be whoppers.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:28 AM
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It wouldn't be that big a burden to require the developer to put in half a dozen good sized trees. Give them 10 years and they'll be whoppers.
Some places have ordinances that require tree replacement.
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Old 04-24-2018, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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It wouldn't be that big a burden to require the developer to put in half a dozen good sized trees. Give them 10 years and they'll be whoppers.
To achieve the scale of the trees now located on Bramblewood Drive, you're talking more like 50-60 years.
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