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Old 05-01-2018, 09:02 AM
 
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The Beltline is part of the gradual change to improve it, but unfortunately there are still many many areas in the metro that is still very hostile to biking requiring people to "drive in order to bike" or even get to a safe / inviting place to walk for that matter.

But I do look forward to the day that most Atlantans have multiple safe and inviting transportation options right out their front door.
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:55 AM
 
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lol at this idea of driving to a place to ride a bike.
If you don't live on a long trail, and want to bike on a long trail, what else are you going to do? Biking five miles through random streets to get to that trail is probably not very fun for most sane people. And a so-called "trail" that is just a glorified sidewalk still crossing roads every block is not remotely the same thing.

I can just as easily say "LOL at walking 20 minutes to get to a MARTA station so I can wait on a train so I can transfer to a bus so I can walk another 20 minutes to my destination". Or "LOL at riding to a MARTA station so I can wrangle my bike through a train station and on a crowded train and then maybe on a bus too so that I can then ride another two miles to my destination in my spandex outfit, covered in sweat".

Not everyone, and in fact very few, share your "bike or walk at all costs" mentality. If they want to ride on the Beltline and don't live near the Beltline, they're going to drive there. Keep in mind: I live almost the same distance from the distant-future Beltline trail as you do, and I probably would not bike to it.

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But I do look forward to the day that most Atlantans have multiple safe and inviting transportation options right out their front door.
I mean, I'm all for more walkable and bikeable areas, and more transit, but thinking that most people will have those options right out their front door is a huge stretch. If even five percent did, that would be pretty remarkable.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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If you don't live on a long trail, and want to bike on a long trail, what else are you going to do? Biking five miles through random streets to get to that trail is probably not very fun for most sane people. And a so-called "trail" that is just a glorified sidewalk still crossing roads every block is not remotely the same thing.

I can just as easily say "LOL at walking 20 minutes to get to a MARTA station so I can wait on a train so I can transfer to a bus so I can walk another 20 minutes to my destination". Or "LOL at riding to a MARTA station so I can wrangle my bike through a train station and on a crowded train and then maybe on a bus too so that I can then ride another two miles to my destination in my spandex outfit, covered in sweat".

Not everyone, and in fact very few, share your "bike or walk at all costs" mentality. If they want to ride on the Beltline and don't live near the Beltline, they're going to drive there. Keep in mind: I live almost the same distance from the distant-future Beltline trail as you do, and I probably would not bike to it.



I mean, I'm all for more walkable and bikeable areas, and more transit, but thinking that most people will have those options right out their front door is a huge stretch. If even five percent did, that would be pretty remarkable.
Except that starting in 2019, I will a trail connecting me to the EST.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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The Beltline is part of the gradual change to improve it, but unfortunately there are still many many areas in the metro that is still very hostile to biking requiring people to "drive in order to bike" or even get to a safe / inviting place to walk for that matter.

But I do look forward to the day that most Atlantans have multiple safe and inviting transportation options right out their front door.
I believe it can happen.

And let's not forget that in residential areas a lot of people like to walk in the street.
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Old 05-01-2018, 01:36 PM
 
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I believe it can happen.

And let's not forget that in residential areas a lot of people like to walk in the street.
Yep. We don't need a lot of fancy design and buffered space to make a street friendly to walk or bike on. You don't even need any painted lines. Just keep it narrow / enough on street parking that the traffic is slow moving and bikers and walkers will feel just fine walking down the street. Or heck, kids might even start playing ball games in the middle of the street! Madness!
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Old 05-01-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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Except that starting in 2019, I will a trail connecting me to the EST.
As I already said, "...a so-called "trail" that is just a glorified sidewalk still crossing roads every block is not remotely the same thing." So, it's awesome that you are getting a multi-use path between Kirkwood and the EST (i mean that), but it's not the same as a totally separate trail that is easier to convince someone to go a couple of miles down if they are looking fora leisurely ride.

If the Connect The Comet project ever gets going (hahaha...insert Debbie Downer horn sound effect), I'll live literally a stone's throw from the path, although I probably won't be living there any more.
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Old 05-01-2018, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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I mean, when I walked the Westside Trail, I took the train to Ashby, walked the trail, then hopped back on the train at Westend. I don't see why you can't do the same with a bike since MARTA is pretty bike friendly.
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Old 05-01-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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I mean, when I walked the Westside Trail, I took the train to Ashby, walked the trail, then hopped back on the train at Westend. I don't see why you can't do the same with a bike since MARTA is pretty bike friendly.
Who knows where he's coming from? Taking a bike on MARTA is not exactly a fun process, and the trip could likely be far longer than simply driving to the destination.
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Old 05-01-2018, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Who knows where he's coming from? Taking a bike on MARTA is not exactly a fun process, and the trip could likely be far longer than simply driving to the destination.
I mean, it's not that bad. They could park at a park-n-ride and just take the train. Then they have security at the lot.

If they're on a bus line, then they could take the bus to a train station, using the bus' bike rack.
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Old 05-01-2018, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Now that you mention it, if he parked at Kroger, he wouldn't even have to cross the street. I believe a ramp to the beltline is on the eastern side of the parking lot.
There is.

But I'm not sure about the booting situation over there. Atlanta is notorious for boots!
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