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Old 07-10-2018, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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How is that relevant to what you're responding to?

If we're going to introduce new vehicles to congested areas with no public safety campaign at all, then people are going to have to die. It's a price worth paying for a smarter populace. But there's still no excuse for there not being any kind of educational campaign.
How is City Council, regulating private, dockless, personal transportation with a license fee going to stop this kind of behavior?
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Going out on a limb here and guessing you don't subscribe to the "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" stance on gun control? Bird gets a pass on being a responsible corporate citizen because they are fulfilling some transit-hawk wet dream?
This thread is not about Gun control, so I refuse to even answer that as it will sidetrack the thread.
The lack of traffic law enforcement is an issue that plagues Atlanta, Bird scooters being no different. Even if City Council passed an ordinance requiring licensing fees, how would it stop this type of behavior? Just like I doubt the Hands-Free Law will stop people from driving with their phones.
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Old 07-10-2018, 08:36 AM
 
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How is City Council, regulating private, dockless, personal transportation with a license fee going to stop this kind of behavior?

This thread is not about Gun control, so I refuse to even answer that as it will sidetrack the thread.
The lack of traffic law enforcement is an issue that plagues Atlanta, Bird scooters being no different. Even if City Council passed an ordinance requiring licensing fees, how would it stop this type of behavior? Just like I doubt the Hands-Free Law will stop people from driving with their phones.
So you don't think that ordinances work at all to deter behavior? Do you set a curfew for your kids? I know I do, even if sometimes they break it and sometimes I'm not great at enforcing it. . .

The hands-free law isn't going to correct the problem 100% but, yes, it is changing behavior for a lot of people, and same with the scooters. Have some rules and enforce them as well as we can.
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Old 07-10-2018, 08:39 AM
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How is City Council, regulating private, dockless, personal transportation with a license fee going to stop this kind of behavior?
Did I say a single word about regulation? I was talking about safety awareness.
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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So you don't think that ordinances work at all to deter behavior? Do you set a curfew for your kids? I know I do, even if sometimes they break it and sometimes I'm not great at enforcing it. . .

The hands-free law isn't going to correct the problem 100% but, yes, it is changing behavior for a lot of people, and same with the scooters. Have some rules and enforce them as well as we can.
My kid is 5.
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Did I say a single word about regulation? I was talking about safety awareness.
Safety awareness is up to the user. What is your suggestion on how the city can improve that?
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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My kid is 5.
Ok, so use your imagination. . .the kid is now 15. . .and riding a Bird scooter on the sidewalk in Little 5 Points at midnight. . .
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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My kid is 5.

Safety awareness is up to the user. What is your suggestion on how the city can improve that?
Throw all these stupid things in the trash?
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:33 AM
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My kid is 5.

Safety awareness is up to the user. What is your suggestion on how the city can improve that?
Don't be thick. Same way they deal with hands free laws, seatbelt laws, DUI awareness, and other safety concerns.
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Throw all these stupid things in the trash?
How will that solve anything?
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Don't be thick. Same way they deal with hands free laws, seatbelt laws, DUI awareness, and other safety concerns.
Like traffic laws are ever going to be enforced in Atlanta
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Old 07-10-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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How will that solve anything?
Lot harder to kill yourself on something that isn't littering every sidewalk in the city.
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Lot harder to kill yourself on something that isn't littering every sidewalk in the city.
IDK I see cars all the time parked or pulled into a driveway blocking a sidewalk, and they kill tens of thousands of Americans every year.
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