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Old 08-26-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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In Newnan, the way it has grown is somewhat similar to Stockbridge, with the Summergrove area carrying most of the revenue burden for the city (and there being a sizable lower income minority population near the historic town square). But there are a number of differences. One difference is that the city offers just about every type of municipal service you can think of except libraries and schools. It even owns and operates a power / water / sewerage system.
Part of that is due to the fact that Newnan became a wealthy, bustling city early on. At the beginning of the Civil War, Newnan already had a population 2,546. (Atlanta had 9,554 residents).

When Newnan began building its water system in the late 1800s, Stockbridge was a little farming hamlet with a few hundred residents.

Speaking of libraries, the Newnan Carnegie is a real gem. Still looking sharp after 115 years.


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Old 08-26-2018, 10:22 PM
 
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People I know from Newnan RAVE about the quality of Newnan city services; this is NOT what you hear from people in Stockbridge. The Newnan historic district DOES have two faces: gorgeous historic mansions that make Newnan, "The City of Homes" and quite a bit of low income neighborhoods, too. Most county seat towns around Georgia are like this it seems: Newnan, McDonough, Jonesboro, Marietta, etc. Still, in the case of Newnan, it does give the local schools more economic and racial diversity; while Newnan High doesn't rate quite as high as the two other high school in Coweta County, it is no slouch either and really gives its community a solid high school option with true economic diversity.

Keep in mind, though, that Coweta County does an excellent job in making sure the lower income neighborhoods around Newnan proper are split between its three high schools--so that all of the lower income neighborhoods are not concentrated just at Newnan High.

See the maps below:

http://cowetaschools.org/images/maps...NewnanHigh.pdf

http://cowetaschools.org/images/maps...CowetaHigh.pdf

http://cowetaschools.org/images/maps...thgateHigh.pdf



Kudos to Coweta County in ensuring three good/strong/solid high schools for its residents.
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Old 08-26-2018, 11:23 PM
 
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Keep in mind, though, that Coweta County does an excellent job in making sure the lower income neighborhoods around Newnan proper are split between its three high schools--so that all of the lower income neighborhoods are not concentrated just at Newnan High.

See the maps below:

http://cowetaschools.org/images/maps...NewnanHigh.pdf

http://cowetaschools.org/images/maps...CowetaHigh.pdf

http://cowetaschools.org/images/maps...thgateHigh.pdf



Kudos to Coweta County in ensuring three good/strong/solid high schools for its residents.
This is also true.

Despite it's ongoing transition to a more affluent county, Coweta thus far has definitely done a decent job of ensuring a high quality of life for everyone on the economic scale. It helps that it has one of the largest land areas in Metro Atlanta, thus plenty of room to make for all.

It now just needs to **** or get off the pot with expanding/adding infrastructure and attracting corporate jobs, now that it's on the verge of a massive development boom. Otherwise, it will eventually end up like Henry County.

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Old 08-27-2018, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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In that case I just disagree with you..

With all due respect things aren't as "F'd up" across the board as you make it seem.

I live in Gwinnett and it seems to have the perfect economies of scale for well run water, sewage, schools, etc..

The thought that there would be 30 or 40 towns providing all these services wouldn't be efficient.

Now things aren't perfect. The annexation standards leave much to be desired, but that alone is hardly a reason to chastise Georgia counties for not being like Texas.
The F bomb (even intialized) was inappropriate and sorry to use it.

That said, Gwinnett runs nicely now as a county. So does Cobb. But then again DeKalb and Fulton were deemed great uninicorporated places not too long ago. But the incorporation fever took hold because those counties had grown too unwieldy for the local communities to stomach.

And it wouldn't need to be 30 or 40 towns. Look at DFW. Gwinnett could have developed with the existing towns in place, so what? like ten? They could have expanded their borders to cover the growth and have been cities of 75k to 150k. Norcross could have been the far eastern bump, from DeKalb and Fulton to 85. Lilburn could have started there and down to somewhere near 78. Snellville could have taken up from there down to the south county boundary. Lawrenceville the big chunk in the middle. And on and on with Duluth, Grayson, Dacula, Sugar Hill, Suwanee and Buford. So 13 towns max covering the whole of the county. Some would be larger, some smaller. Out here in Collin Texas some of these services are shared, like the water is the North Texas Water District and covers McKinney, Plano, Frico and Allen and some of the satellite smaller burbs. So everything wouldn't have to be divvied up.
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Old 08-27-2018, 01:44 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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So everything wouldn't have to be divvied up.
But then every wannabe politician won't get an additional shot at living out their dream power trips.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:21 AM
 
Location: East Side of ATL
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https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt-...y52wCRpsc1kkM/

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Judy Smith, who is white, heard arguments from both sides before deciding to back the effort to make Eagle’s Landing Henry’s fifth city. She said Stockbridge for years has unfairly distributed tax dollars taken from Eagle’s Landing to other parts of the community for services such as libraries, trash pickup and parks.
People really think like this? That's all things that are good for the community. I don't understand the disdain for your tax dollars being used for them.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt-...y52wCRpsc1kkM/



People really think like this? That's all things that are good for the community. I don't understand the disdain for your tax dollars being used for them.
The real issue is they don't want tax dollars being spent on *THOSE* people...

But yeah, that's not how it works.
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:17 PM
 
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Eagles Landing to take part of Stockbridge’s debt if approved

https://www.henryherald.com/news/eag...b368da8ef.html
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Old 11-04-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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In the Deep South, residents of an upscale suburb fight to secede from their neighbors

In the Deep South, residents of an upscale suburb fight to secede from their neighbors - Los Angeles Times

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When Vikki Consiglio exits her subdivision next to the Eagle’s Landing Country Club, leaving behind a neighborhood of neatly manicured lawns, circular driveways and golf fairways, she cannot help feeling a wave of disappointment

“I see the Waffle Houses and the McDonald’s, the Walmart and the dollar stores,” she said. “I’m thinking, ‘Is this all I can have?’ There’s no fresh farm-to-table, no parks, no entertainment.”

In what she says is a bid to attract more upscale amenities to this rapidly developing suburb about 20 miles southeast of downtown Atlanta, Consiglio has come up with a controversial plan: to form a new city, Eagle’s Landing, by combining unincorporated pockets of the county with the most affluent parts of the existing city of Stockbridge...

...Backers of Eagle’s Landing counter that their aim is nothing more than to lure new fine dining and retail to a freshly coined community with a median household income of about $128,000 — more than double that of Stockbridge. Imagine, they tell their neighbors, a Whole Foods or a Trader Joe’s, a California Pizza Kitchen or a Capital Grille.

They also push strongly against accusations that they are seeking racial separation, pointing out that whites will hardly control Eagle’s Landing. The proposed city, population 17,000, would be 47% black, 39% white, 8% Asian and 6% Hispanic.

“I don’t look at this as a black or white issue; I look at it as an issue that would benefit all,” said Charles Marshall, an African American resident of the Eagle’s Landing subdivision who supports the creation of a new city. With minority residents the majority, the 68-year-old district manager of an automotive company said he was confident of a diverse council board...

...While Consiglio, who lives in unincorporated Henry County, complains Stockbridge’s leaders have failed to provide basic services and let down high-end neighborhoods with poor city planning, she says her push for cityhood is less about Stockbridge than giving the area an economic jolt.

“If we have a city, we can control our destiny and control what comes in and what it looks like,” she said. “We felt we didn’t have that. We wanted an economic boost for our area...”
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Old 11-04-2018, 10:37 AM
 
Location: NYC by week; ATL by weekend
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Maybe cities need to start being nice to their affluent regions? I guess you can't take them for granted anymore.
Arjay thats a very obtuse statement. Affluent neighborhoods are not neglected......they are actually serviced by the municipalitis...as a person who has resided in both affluent and non affluent areas i can assure you city government is far nicer to the former than the latter bruh...
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