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Old 06-16-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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Anybody got hints on what the announcement is? I'm guessing the first chunk of state funds will be announced.
I saw a leaked transcript. The state is raising the base sales tax by a percent, as well as legalizing cannabis and taxing it, with the plan to invest $100 billion into transit statewide, with $75 billion of that for Metro Atlanta transit, including heavy rail and commuter rail. And we're expanding Medicaid, Cagle and Kemp have both dropped out of the governor race, both GA senators have resigned, and Deal denounces Trump and leaves the GOP. New LGBT statewide protections will be going into effect. And the big news, Amazon have chosen Atlanta for their HQ2.

Hahaha, just kidding, it'll likely be a list of projects we already know (and don't love) getting a few million each from the state (that we already knew about), and everybody will clap and praise the same GOP old white men for being such great visionary leaders. Meanwhile, competing metros and states look at backwards deep south Georgia in the rear view mirror.
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Old 06-16-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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YOU are SO right! I lived in metro Atlanta in the 90s and early '00s and visited a few years. Frankly, it was distressing to see the lack of mobility improvement. I saw the East-West connecter in Cobb as a major addition and finishing University Parkway to Athens. But nothing else that anyone with knowledge of urban transit would consider truly helpful. I reside now in Dallas/Fort Worth, a metro area of 7.3 million residents. Literally, every year I've been here major expansions have occurred:

Finishing a second beltway,
finishing two 20-30 mile toll-roads,
adding and rebuilding bridges,
redoing the mix-master downtown,
widening 4 freeways,
finishing four more light rail lines to go with four (one heavy rail) lines in operation, and starting a ninth rail line last year. You are talking over $15 billion in mobility improvements over 15 years. That's the kind of investment businesses take note of for relocation and expansion.
So do you think Dallas looks like Tokyo in comparison to Atlanta?
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Old 06-16-2018, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Vinings
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Don't feed that Dallas troll. Look at that guy's posting history at the Atlanta forum, it's all trolling.

WE can criticize Atlanta/Georgia because we live here, and we balance the frustration with praise and pride and love.

People who live elsewhere who come to CD Atlanta to trash Atlanta, are losers. Especially when they live in Texas.
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Old 06-16-2018, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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I saw a leaked transcript. The state is raising the base sales tax by a percent, as well as legalizing cannabis and taxing it, with the plan to invest $100 billion into transit statewide, with $75 billion of that for Metro Atlanta transit, including heavy rail and commuter rail. And we're expanding Medicaid, Cagle and Kemp have both dropped out of the governor race, both GA senators have resigned, and Deal denounces Trump and leaves the GOP. New LGBT statewide protections will be going into effect. And the big news, Amazon have chosen Atlanta for their HQ2.

Hahaha, just kidding, it'll likely be a list of projects we already know (and don't love) getting a few million each from the state (that we already knew about), and everybody will clap and praise the same GOP old white men for being such great visionary leaders. Meanwhile, competing metros and states look at backwards deep south Georgia in the rear view mirror.
Don't toy with my heart like that Primal!
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Old 06-16-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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Don't feed that Dallas troll. Look at that guy's posting history at the Atlanta forum, it's all trolling.

WE can criticize Atlanta/Georgia because we live here, and we balance the frustration with praise and pride and love.

People who live elsewhere who come to CD Atlanta to trash Atlanta, are losers. Especially when they live in Texas.
I definitely have the frustration because of the hometown pride and love. Atlanta will always be where I'm from and a part of who I am no matter where I live. Even when I was living away from here, I always felt that Atlanta problems are my problems, especially with the crime rate and the lack of transportation/lack of drive to improve it.
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:02 AM
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The Metroplex has 0 heavy rail lines.
It has several LRT, 1 commuter rail, 1 DMU and building another. Yet DART has the lowest ridership prr mile for LRT.
Dallas has 93 miles of light rail and a 2.5 mile streetcar, all built from the 90s on.
Atlanta has 47 miles of heavy rail and a similar streetcar with only the streetcar built in the last 18 years and little of the HRT built since the 80s.
They've done a lot while Atlanta has done next to nothing.

Dallas has built LRT to the burbs. And as you noted, they do have very low ridership. It raises serious questions about the rationale for building rail to the low density suburbs.
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:03 AM
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Wonder if this is an additional lure for Amazon.
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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Wonder if this is an additional lure for Amazon.
That's my guess. Sounds like Amazon is done touring and is now whittling down the list, so having more news about the government making real tangible transit changes will hopefully help.
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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Anybody got hints on what the announcement is? I'm guessing the first chunk of state funds will be announced.
They will be announcing a study of the effectiveness of a future study to begin in 2025, which will decide whether it's viable to organize a committee by 2030 to determine the steps needed to work on a 2035 design for a 3.5 mile light rail line between East Point and Rosedale Heights, which would then be presented to vote, with a ground-breaking sometime in 2043, and completion in 2057, with overall study costs of $638 million, construction costs of $9.7 billion, and an expected ridership of 376 per day.

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Dallas has 93 miles of light rail and a 2.5 mile streetcar, all built from the 90s on.
Atlanta has 47 miles of heavy rail and a similar streetcar with only the streetcar built in the last 18 years and little of the HRT built since the 80s.
They've done a lot while Atlanta has done next to nothing.
Wow. That's shocking.

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Dallas has built LRT to the burbs. And as you noted, they do have very low ridership.
Over 100k per day ridership. I wouldn't call that "very low". Light rail is fairly slow, and not really good for longer distances.

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Old 06-16-2018, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I saw a leaked transcript. The state is raising the base sales tax by a percent, as well as legalizing cannabis and taxing it, with the plan to invest $100 billion into transit statewide, with $75 billion of that for Metro Atlanta transit, including heavy rail and commuter rail. And we're expanding Medicaid, Cagle and Kemp have both dropped out of the governor race, both GA senators have resigned, and Deal denounces Trump and leaves the GOP. New LGBT statewide protections will be going into effect. And the big news, Amazon have chosen Atlanta for their HQ2.

Hahaha, just kidding, it'll likely be a list of projects we already know (and don't love) getting a few million each from the state (that we already knew about), and everybody will clap and praise the same GOP old white men for being such great visionary leaders. Meanwhile, competing metros and states look at backwards deep south Georgia in the rear view mirror.
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