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Old 06-18-2018, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Also, be aware that even a lot of the Clifton Corridor between Lindberg and Emory is outside the city limits. Basically all of the line between Cheshire Bridge and the CDC is outside the city limits.

Clifton Corridor requires regional partnership & funding. Even for "phase I" between lindberg and Emory. Until that regional partnership & funding is in place other transit projects that already have RoW should be a higher priority.
I see you drinking that Gravel Kool Aid.

So that fact that it crosses city limits is the reason it
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requires regional partnership & funding?
The entire BeltLine loop is not already under City of Atlanta ownership. Campbellton Rd does not already have ROW for dedicated BRT or LRT.
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Old 06-18-2018, 02:18 PM
 
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The entire BeltLine loop is not already under City of Atlanta ownership. Campbellton Rd does not already have ROW for dedicated BRT or LRT.
All of the Beltline is within the city limits. And yes, routes like Campbellton Rd and NW Beltline that do not have dedicated RoW secured they also should fall further down the list.
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Old 06-18-2018, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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All of the Beltline is within the city limits. And yes, routes like Campbellton Rd and NW Beltline that do not have dedicated RoW secured they also should fall further down the list.
So you are specifically referring to SE BeltLine? I do agree it should be a priority, but Emory/CDC is the largest employment center in the city and metro without rail or freeway access. ATL passed, but has no funding mechanism so we should just wait around?
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Old 06-18-2018, 03:55 PM
 
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So you are specifically referring to SE BeltLine? I do agree it should be a priority, but Emory/CDC is the largest employment center in the city and metro without rail or freeway access. ATL passed, but has no funding mechanism so we should just wait around?
I certainly see the value in Emory & CDC route and want it to become a reality. I see the budget having room for both (assuming regional support comes about). But yes, items like the SE Beltline, "hashtag BRT" with dedicated RoW routes should have priority over Clifton Corridor without regional partnerships.

If something changes such as DeKalb or "The ATL" adds funding for Clifton Cooridor while one of the BRT routes is unable to secure RoW then that priority list should reshuffle.
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Old 06-19-2018, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I certainly see the value in Emory & CDC route and want it to become a reality. I see the budget having room for both (assuming regional support comes about). But yes, items like the SE Beltline, "hashtag BRT" with dedicated RoW routes should have priority over Clifton Corridor without regional partnerships.

If something changes such as DeKalb or "The ATL" adds funding for Clifton Cooridor while one of the BRT routes is unable to secure RoW then that priority list should reshuffle.
You do know Hashtag BRT is not part of MARTA Planning? It's not even part of Atlanta Transportation Plan, should be. Hashtag BRT has 0 studies and 0 guarantee of dedicated ROW, while Clifton Corridor does have dedicated ROW and exclusive lanes (median.) I am not arguing SE BeltLine vs Clifton Corridor, both are important transit links. I am arguing against this Hashtag BRT plan and Campbellton Rd's 3 transit projects funded by MoreMARTA over the Clifton Corridor.
Assuming regional support will delay viable transit to the largest employment center in the city w/o rail or freeway access for decades. State Republicans are patting themselves on the back for transit, it'll be awhile before they take the next step.
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Old 06-19-2018, 06:06 AM
 
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According to the AJC, Deal is going to announce that $100 million over the span of a decade will be included in his 2019 Budget for transit.

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regi...LscoO/amp.html
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Old 06-19-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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According to the AJC, Deal is going to announce that $100 million over the span of a decade will be included in his 2019 Budget for transit.

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regi...LscoO/amp.html
It's already been announced that $100MM in bonds will be issued in FY19. It looks like the announcement is going to be which projects will get that money. Also looks like a big chunk of it is going to GA400. I assume that's going to be for "BRT".
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Old 06-19-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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According to the AJC, Deal is going to announce that $100 million over the span of a decade will be included in his 2019 Budget for transit.

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regi...LscoO/amp.html
Booooo
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Old 06-19-2018, 09:43 AM
 
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Booooo
It's massive compared to what the business community is putting in!
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Old 06-19-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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It's massive compared to what the business community is putting in!
I guess you are not counting the taxes they are paying?

But like I've said. Get transit a more level playing field and private companies will jump in and foot the whole bill themselves like they are in other cities.
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