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Old 09-11-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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Next time their is a car crash on I-75 NB I'll post my question in the Braves/Cobb County Thread to look for answers.
Seriously, you thought I should start a new thread for a simple question. This thread is about the streetcar and I knew all of you experts would be reading this thread. Quit whining about absolutely nothing, please. Geez.
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Old 09-11-2018, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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Well, it’s about rail anyways.
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:46 PM
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Florida's Brightline has killed at least four, with two in one week. But, these are people wandering or cycling onto the tracks. Just as it's your fault if you get hit by a car wandering into a road where you're not supposed to, it's your fault if you get hit by a train because you wandered onto the tracks. But, the Beltline train will not really be going fast enough to do too much damage to most. And, there's a huge median between the path and the train, and I assume crossings will have signals.



And, assuming they are more than four years old, they should know how to look left, then right, before crossing. And if they are at an official crossing, there should be visual and audible signals alerting people to oncoming trains.
We need to design on how people actually act, not how we think they should act. Almost all of the Houston accidents were totally the fault of the vehicle or cyclist.
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:48 PM
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That is your assumption that BeltLine users will be wrost.
Its an assumption that they might be worse because they are in a different type of setting. Its a question to ask.
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:11 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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We need to design on how people actually act, not how we think they should act. Almost all of the Houston accidents were totally the fault of the vehicle or cyclist.

You can't "idiot-proof" transportation infrastructure.
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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We need to design on how people actually act, not how we think they should act. Almost all of the Houston accidents were totally the fault of the vehicle or cyclist.
Fences between the path and rails, 100% coverage. Also "cattle guards" at each legal crossing and at the ends of station platforms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle...ttle_guard.jpg
Make them decorative. Idiots will still find ways to get on the tracks, but we can't be 100%.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:29 PM
 
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We need to design on how people actually act, not how we think they should act. Almost all of the Houston accidents were totally the fault of the vehicle or cyclist.
Short of surrounding the tracks with a fence, which would just be terrible, or running the trains so slowly that there is no possibility of injury, there's not much you can do to make it impossible for people to get hit by a train if they cross the tracks without looking or obeying signals. The same principle is used for roads. No, you can't really design around some guy wearing all black walking across a dark 6-lane divided road at midnight nowhere near a crosswalk. You can't design around someone just randomly walking into the road, short of large barriers surrounding the roads. I don't know how a 10' differ between path and trains isn't sufficient, either.
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Old 09-12-2018, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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You can't "idiot-proof" transportation infrastructure.
Yep, look at the traffic deaths we still have even as roads are better designed and cars have a ton of safety features. It's the 80/20 idea, you can only design a road to prevent 80% of crash, the other 20% are human behavior.
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Old 09-14-2018, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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The chair of the Atlanta City Council’s Transportation Committee says he is not happy with the way MARTA’s $2.5 billion expansion plan pits winners against losers, and he said City Hall will soon be releasing its thoughts on expansion proposals that are due for a vote by MARTA’s board on Oct. 4.
I hope they prioritize BeltLine transit and encourage MARTA Board to do they same. Campbellton Rd projects scored very low, but that corridor still needs transit, high quality BRT would be quicker implementation and lower disruption to residents and businesses.

https://saportareport.com/atlanta-vo...-project-list/
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:34 PM
 
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Sounds like some people think the MARTA chairman has a conflict of interest because is also the lawyer who worked to get Emory annexed into the city of Atlanta.

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In his private career as an attorney, Robbie Ashe helped Atlanta annex the Emory University area in DeKalb County last year, and continues to defend the annexation in court. Now, as chairman of the MARTA board of directors, he’ll help decide whether to spend more than $500 million from a city transit tax to extend light rail to the Emory area.

Some Atlanta residents say the proposed light rail line should not be a top priority because Emory wasn’t in the city when voters approved the transit tax in 2016. They want money shifted from that line to other projects, including the Atlanta Beltline. And they question whether Ashe can make an impartial decision, given his advocacy for the Emory annexation.

“Maybe it is or it isn’t [a conflict],” said Kay Stephenson, a member of the group Beltline Rail Now. “But there’s certainly a perception among the public that it’s problematic.”

More...MARTA chairman’s role in Emory annexation draws scrutiny
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