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Old 06-26-2018, 11:32 AM
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Based on ARC estimates Atlanta added more residents over the last two years than any county North, South East and West other Gwinnett and Cobb and in the last year the city grew more than non-Atlanta Fulton county. The census estimate has the city adding more residents from 2016 - 2017 than any county except Gwinnett.

https://33n.atlantaregional.com/regi...tion-estimates

The city is specifically planning for a population that will be at a minimum double the current population. The whole point of the city design project was to determine 'what Atlanta wants to be', a principle component of which was 'how big Atlanta wants to be'. The zoning update currently under way will be based on the findings of this document.
It doesn't include Forsyth which is the fastest growing county in the region. Cherokee is growing at a much faster rate, with nearly the numerical growth of city of Atlanta despite being half the population. And your link shows Cobb and Gwinnett both adding more people than city of Atlanta. When you extend to 2010-2017, all the northern counties are growing at a significantly faster rate as well as some southern counties like Henry and Rockdale.

It also isn't clear how much of Atlanta's growth is Fulton, how much is Dekalb and how much is annexation rather than organic growth.

 
Old 06-26-2018, 01:43 PM
 
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This thread proves that anything short of the status quo is to be lambasted and shunned. Keep kicking that can down the road, fellas.
Wrong. None of us are arguing against transit. Just calling out patently false information and illogical, self-serving againdaa.
 
Old 06-26-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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It doesn't include Forsyth which is the fastest growing county in the region. Cherokee is growing at a much faster rate, with nearly the numerical growth of city of Atlanta despite being half the population. And your link shows Cobb and Gwinnett both adding more people than city of Atlanta. When you extend to 2010-2017, all the northern counties are growing at a significantly faster rate as well as some southern counties like Henry and Rockdale.

It also isn't clear how much of Atlanta's growth is Fulton, how much is Dekalb and how much is annexation rather than organic growth.
Um that would be why I said OTHER THAN Cobb and Gwinnett and that is still most of the counties in the region as I originally stated. The city's annexation was only effective at the end of 2017. The population estimates are from April 1, 2016 to April 1, 2017.

Regardless of the rate of increase in small counties, this city is now adding more total population period which will only continue and accelerate.

 
Old 06-27-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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Looks like there are still a handful of holdouts who haven't gotten the transit memo yet.

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Two Atlanta office developers still see tenants wanting that most basic of all amenities: parking spaces.

Now, Preferred Office Communities and Seven Oaks Co. are building second parking decks onto their Central Perimeter trophy towers to accommodate companies whose employees still use their cars to get to work. Even with a plethora of transit options in Central Perimeter — three MARTA stations, various shuttle services and Uber and Lyft — Seven Oaks and Preferred Office are pushing parking ratios beyond the market norms by adding second parking decks. “When you're talking about the Central Perimeter market, you're not talking about decreasing parking in the near future,” Cushman & Wakefield Director Kyle Kenyon said.

More...Bucking The Trend: Developers Building More Parking For Their Office Buildings
 
Old 06-27-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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Looks like there are still a handful of holdouts who haven't gotten the transit memo yet.
Sorry but a "Pletorah" of transit options even in Perimeter is way over exaggerating it. Its easy to commute by train IF you live near MARTA rail or live ITP, which most commuting to perimeter do not. They are commuting from the suburbs (look at I-285 in the mornings.) Uber or Lyft is only good if your commuting locally, or need it for an occasional longer commute, but depending on it for a longer commute isn't a very good idea.

Perimeter area currently has plenty of parking within the local businesses, but I also can't help but feel that area is becoming over populated and the area in general isnt very well serviced by local surface streets. Its very dense between Ashford Dunwoody and GA-400.
 
Old 06-27-2018, 08:07 PM
 
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Looks like there are still a handful of holdouts who haven't gotten the transit memo yet.
There are quite a few office complexes on the west side of 400. That's a pretty hefty walk from rail stations, and other options are limited. Even the King/Queen buildings are 4,000 feet from a MARTA station...longer than most people are going to walk.

For the majority of people, the combination of walk-train-walk, or walk-bus-train-walk, or walk-bus-walk, or whatever, is probably longer and not nearly as comfortable as their car ride...going to be hard to entice them out.
 
Old 06-28-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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And the addiction to more parking continues:

3,000 space parking deck proposed for Emory Hospital

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In February, neighbors of Midtown’s Emory Hospital rejoiced at the announcement that an eyesore of a parking deck on campus was slated to be demolished.

When the dilapidated parking garage was ultimately razed, there were (frustratingly) no concrete plans to do anything with the site, or at least none that were publicly known.

But according to permit application documents obtained by Curbed Atlanta, the property might soon see the construction of a novel new concept ... another parking deck.

The deceased parking garage used to be part of a Chevrolet dealership that had operated as early as the 1920s, according to Atlanta architect and preservationist Kyle Kessler. The only piece of the business that survived the recent demolition is a section of the old showroom abutting West Peachtree Street.

The proposed deck is expected to house more than 3,000 parking spots in a multi-level garage, at the southeast corner of Linden Avenue and West Peachtree, about a block from the Varsity and North Avenue MARTA Station.

“A Special Use Permit is being pursued for the deck which will provide staff-only parking for the Emory University Hospital Midtown campus located across West Peachtree Street to the east,” the application paperwork says.


This area will be further FUBARed by traffic.
 
Old 06-28-2018, 10:19 AM
 
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And the addiction to more parking continues:

3,000 space parking deck proposed for Emory Hospital



This area will be further FUBARed by traffic.
3,000 spaces seems pretty excessive. But, the deck is literally across the street from interstate on and off ramps. I don't think it will create too much traffic.

To their point about it being close to a MARTA station...if the people aren't currently using MARTA to get to the area, the addition of this parking deck isn't going to change that. MARTA rail serves a very small portion of just ITP and almost none of OTP. The fact that one station is near this deck is irrelevant.
 
Old 06-28-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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Parking Spaces has nothing to do with the traffic in Perimeter...

The main causes of traffic in that area are:

-- Too many intersections in one area
-- Too many large streets that funnle down into small roads after leaving perimeter (no good arterials)
-- NO feasible way to travel there except by I-285 or GA-400, only a couple of roads leave the vincinity and most of them are no larger than 1 lane each way after leaving perimeter area, even OTP.
-- No way to get there by bus OR train unless you live ITP
-- In general, the area was severely under-planned in terms of infrastructure and transportation.

You can blameshift to parking spaces all day long but try taking a bus there from Cobb or Gwinnett...which is the lesser of the two evils?
 
Old 06-28-2018, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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3,000 spaces seems pretty excessive. But, the deck is literally across the street from interstate on and off ramps. I don't think it will create too much traffic.

To their point about it being close to a MARTA station...if the people aren't currently using MARTA to get to the area, the addition of this parking deck isn't going to change that. MARTA rail serves a very small portion of just ITP and almost none of OTP. The fact that one station is near this deck is irrelevant.
People are currently using MARTA to access the hospital. MARTA Mobility is constantly dropping off/picking up riders. Bus route 40 always picks up a large group of riders there.
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