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Old 05-25-2018, 06:14 PM
 
Location: atlanta
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i wonder if we will break the 1970 record in 2020?
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:40 PM
 
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i wonder if we will break the 1970 record in 2020?
495k? If estimates are accurate I think we will
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Old 05-26-2018, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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It's number 10 in tems of numerical change. It's first in terms of percentage change for all cities over 100k.
I meant the release from the Census.... I just see the top 15 in each of those three categories listed in the release from the OP. Was wanting to see pop statistics for other cities.
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Old 05-27-2018, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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I would be very cautious about the ACS estimates after the overestimate by nearly 100K residents from the 2009 estimate (515,000) to the 2010 actual count (420,000). I've been told several times by Atlanta City officials that the actual population is likely around 450,000 at the most at the moment.
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Old 05-28-2018, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Outer Boroughs, NYC
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I would be very cautious about the ACS estimates .

Not ACS -- the U.S. Census Bureau. The American Community Survey is a random survey of religious affiliations, languages spoken in the home, etc. It's pretty much just a sampling of social trends. It's the U.S. Census Bureau that counts (or estimates) population. Big difference.
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Old 05-28-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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Not ACS -- the U.S. Census Bureau. The American Community Survey is a random survey of religious affiliations, languages spoken in the home, etc. It's pretty much just a sampling of social trends. It's the U.S. Census Bureau that counts (or estimates) population. Big difference.
I know what the US Census Bureau and American Community Survey are, thank you. The ACS is apart of the US Census Bureau program that is called the American Fact Finder, where the annual intercensal estimate data is handled. The American Fact Finder (AFF) gives you a complete snapshot of recent decennial counts, demographic, and socioeconomic data, and annual estimate data. The terms can be used interchangeably, but the proper acronym is AFF (American Fact Finder)
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Old 05-28-2018, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Outer Boroughs, NYC
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I know what the US Census Bureau and American Community Survey are, thank you. The ACS is apart of the US Census Bureau program that is called the American Fact Finder, where the annual intercensal estimate data is handled. The American Fact Finder (AFF) gives you a complete snapshot of recent decennial counts, demographic, and socioeconomic data, and annual estimate data. The terms can be used interchangeably, but the proper acronym is AFF (American Fact Finder)

It's obvious that you don't know. American Factfinder is a website that shows all sorts of population and other stats in handy tabular form. It is not synonymous with ACS, which is a survey by U.S. Census of social trends. The ACS derives social data from questionnaires, not from official counts or the yearly analysis of commuter trends to compile population estimates. U.S. Census, not the ACS, counts and provides population estimates of cities, metro areas, counties and states, which specifically state "According to U.S. Census." Languages spoken in the home, ancestry, etc., are "According to the ACS."

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Old 05-28-2018, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, and Raleigh
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It's obvious that you don't know. American Factfinder is a website that shows all sorts of population and other stats in handy tabular form. It is not synonymous with ACS, which is a survey by U.S. Census of social trends. The ACS derives social data from questionnaires, not from official counts or the yearly analysis of commuter trends to compile population estimates. U.S. Census, not the ACS, counts and provides population estimates of cities, metro areas, counties and states, which specifically state "According to U.S. Census." Languages spoken in the home, ancestry, etc., are "According to the ACS."
No, I just described what both are in layman's terms and you are copy and pasting information from the website. I clearly know the US Census is the federal agency that administers the American Fact Finder datasets and the American Community Survey. ACS is a demographic breakdown and the AFF is a database. Hint both are compile from intercensal estimate (aka the annual estimates). You obviously don't know what you are talking about I just described both in laymans term, but it's funny you want debate semantics when actuality you are the one that sounds silly and absurd.

I'm going just ignore you from now on this is downright ignorant and shows you are foolish one...
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Old 05-28-2018, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Outer Boroughs, NYC
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No, I just described what both are in layman's terms and you are copy and pasting information from the website. I clearly know the US Census is the federal agency that administers the American Fact Finder datasets and the American Community Survey. ACS is a demographic breakdown and the AFF is a database. Hint both are compile from intercensal estimate (aka the annual estimates). You obviously don't know what you are talking about I just described both in laymans term, but it's funny you want debate semantics when actuality you are the one that sounds silly and absurd.

I'm going just ignore you from now on this is downright ignorant and shows you are foolish one...
It's not "semantics", it's accuracy. The ACS is specifically a survey of social groups and trends such as language and ancestry, not city population totals. Populations are U.S. Census estimates (based on an actual count, not a survey). No one at City-Data ever says "the latest ACS population estimates" -- there's no such animal. It's "the latest U.S. Census estimates for Atlanta."
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Old 05-29-2018, 06:21 PM
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It's not "semantics", it's accuracy. The ACS is specifically a survey of social groups and trends such as language and ancestry, not city population totals. Populations are U.S. Census estimates (based on an actual count, not a survey). No one at City-Data ever says "the latest ACS population estimates" -- there's no such animal. It's "the latest U.S. Census estimates for Atlanta."
And the latest census estimates were badly off between 2000 and 2010. Atlanta talked them into ignoring some data.


Presumably they have learned their lesson, but you won't know for sure until the 2020 census comes out.
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