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Old 05-26-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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The neighborhood wasn't. It was doing just fine.

And the center still had a nice Publix AND Kroger.

Sure, but in the eyes of the growing numbers of 20 and 30-something residents, having two grocery stores means little if there are no other interesting shops surrounding them. The company who owns the property doesn't just want people to buy groceries and split, they want them to linger and drop some of their disposable cash too. And it appears they may be succeeding, because I've noticed the demographic has changed greatly even in the past couple of years.
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Old 05-26-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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No doubt about it. The shopping center was definitely in decline.
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The neighborhood wasn't. It was doing just fine.

And the center still had a nice Publix AND Kroger.
Are both the Publix and Kroger still there? I always loved that.
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Old 05-26-2018, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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Are both the Publix and Kroger still there? I always loved that.
They are, aries, and stronger than ever.

It should be noted that the 'Kroger Arm' of Toco and its outbuildings that front LaVista are not owned by Edens. It is still owned and managed by the Shepherd family.
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Old 05-26-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Gentrification definitely applies to neighborhoods and not individual shopping centers. Revitalization would fit, but that's it. It's possible to have a run down shopping center in the middle of an otherwise thriving, low-crime, neighborhood. If someone brings said shopping center back up, that's not gentrification as the neighborhood hasn't changed.
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Old 05-26-2018, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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Gentrification definitely applies to neighborhoods and not individual shopping centers. Revitalization would fit, but that's it. It's possible to have a run down shopping center in the middle of an otherwise thriving, low-crime, neighborhood. If someone brings said shopping center back up, that's not gentrification as the neighborhood hasn't changed.
Arguably true, to put a finer point on it. There are examples of your statement that I bolded all over town: North DeKalb, Northlake, Dunwoody Village, Cambridge Square, Ansley Mall/Ansley Square, Moores Mill Center and so on.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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I think the semantics argument here over the term "gentrification" is that it has taken a nuanced meaning these days that has enhanced the racial aspect of change in a neighborhood. One sees the word "gentrification" on a board like this and one automatically thinks along racial lines. Since the neighborhood is not changing drastically along racial lines (even if it is moving more upscale) some will not agree that Gentrification is an appropriate term here. From Iconographer's quoted definition, that is a possible piece of the puzzle, but not the puzzle.


Just thought I'd add that little observation.
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Old 05-26-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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They are, aries, and stronger than ever.

It should be noted that the 'Kroger Arm' of Toco and its outbuildings that front LaVista are not owned by Edens. It is still owned and managed by the Shepherd family.
Thanks--and cool.

(see bolded above) --> Interesting and good to know.
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Old 05-26-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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Gentrification definitely applies to neighborhoods and not individual shopping centers. Revitalization would fit, but that's it. It's possible to have a run down shopping center in the middle of an otherwise thriving, low-crime, neighborhood. If someone brings said shopping center back up, that's not gentrification as the neighborhood hasn't changed.
Amen to this.

Case in point --> Sprayberry Crossing in East Cobb.


Also--the Canton Road Corridor in "western" East Cobb.
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Old 05-26-2018, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Driving East on N Druid Hills to Scott Blvd. in Decatur is like driving into the past...to 30 years ago.

Run-down, discolored shopping centers and fast food restaurants in buildings and branding elements even older than the previous design from today. Chick Fil A and Arby's both headquartered here, comes to mind.

I like Dekalb's trees and natural beauty, but I swear it is the worst managed county I've ever seen.

The pavement quality and road signs appear to not have been updated since the 80's.
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Old 05-26-2018, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Amen to this.

Case in point --> Sprayberry Crossing in East Cobb.


Also--the Canton Road Corridor in "western" East Cobb.
Ummmm..... I agree with you on Sprayberry Crossing and surrounding neighborhoods, but Canton Road? This coming from a former resident of Brackett Road directly off of Canton. it was kind of sketchy in the 90s. Similar older pre subdivision, pre Atlanta suburban haphazard housing stock from Blackwell down to Marietta. Not the nicest part of Cobb.
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