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Old 05-26-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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Driving East on N Druid Hills to Scott Blvd. in Decatur is like driving into the past...to 30 years ago.

Run-down, discolored shopping centers and fast food restaurants in buildings and branding elements even older than the previous design from today. Chick Fil A and Arby's both headquartered here, comes to mind.

I like Dekalb's trees and natural beauty, but I swear it is the worst managed county I've ever seen.

The pavement quality and road signs appear to not have been updated since the 80's.
The last time we were over there it looked like it was busting out all over. There are a bunch of new developments and even the driving range is being turned into some kind of dense housing development. North DeKalb is about to be turned into a Costco and Scott Boulevard and Church are changing fast. Those single family homes over that way from the 1950s and 60s bring $400K and up and sell just about overnight.
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Old 05-26-2018, 03:12 PM
 
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Ummmm..... I agree with you on Sprayberry Crossing and surrounding neighborhoods, but Canton Road? This coming from a former resident of Brackett Road directly off of Canton. it was kind of sketchy in the 90s. Similar older pre subdivision, pre Atlanta suburban haphazard housing stock from Blackwell down to Marietta. Not the nicest part of Cobb.
Sketchy??? Not as nice as core East Cobb, but definitely solidly middle-class (and with some actual upper middle class mixed in believe it or not).

Haphazard in places, yes. Middle-class, yes. Low-Crime, yes. Sketchy, no.

Come on, Brother Marks—I’m starting to sense a little Walton in you...
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Old 05-26-2018, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Sketchy??? Not as nice as core East Cobb, but definitely solidly middle-class (and with some actual upper middle class mixed in believe it or not).

Haphazard in places, yes. Middle-class, yes. Low-Crime, yes. Sketchy, no.

Come on, Brother Marks—I’m starting to sense a little Walton in you...
Haha, the view is from one who sat on the bottom Cobb rung looking up at the Walton types!
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Old 05-26-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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So burglar bars are a prerequisite for gentrification?
No, but the loss of burglar bars combined with an complrte change in the demographics of an area might be a clue.
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Old 05-26-2018, 07:37 PM
 
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Haha, the view is from one who sat on the bottom Cobb rung looking up at the Walton types!
It’s all about context. That area in other parts of Cobb would be on a much higher rung and possibly envied. It just happens to be within the western confines of oh-la-la East Cobb and thus receives lower billing.

Remember, East Cobb’s Sprayberry would be South Cobb’s Walton.
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Old 05-27-2018, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Atlanta and St Simons Island, GA
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No, but the loss of burglar bars combined with an complrte change in the demographics of an area might be a clue.
The point of contention was that the process of gentrification isn't limited to one kind of neighborhood and it doesn't necessarily have to be dilapidated and crime-ridden to qualify. Virginia-Highland, arguably the poster child of Atlanta gentrification, was never either of those things. Tired and aging, yes, with a moribund commercial district, it found it's way back in the late 70's and early 80's. The neighborhoods around Toco Hill are undergoing the same process today.
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Old 05-27-2018, 07:11 AM
 
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That's a good description, Icon.
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:22 AM
 
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Giant Package is pretty good, I guess.
That’s what she said!

No, but really..there’s a store named “Giant Package”?
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:30 AM
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I think the semantics argument here over the term "gentrification" is that it has taken a nuanced meaning these days that has enhanced the racial aspect of change in a neighborhood. One sees the word "gentrification" on a board like this and one automatically thinks along racial lines. Since the neighborhood is not changing drastically along racial lines (even if it is moving more upscale) some will not agree that Gentrification is an appropriate term here. From Iconographer's quoted definition, that is a possible piece of the puzzle, but not the puzzle.


Just thought I'd add that little observation.
Gentrification means that it wasn't "gentrified" before. Toco Hills is and was "gentrified." If it goes from upper middle class to a little higher upper middle class, the term doesn't apply.

As said by MattCW, the center is being "revitalized." Perhaps made more "upscale."

And it was never "run down." It had the Department of Labor, but it also had the groceries, a really nice Pike's, nice restaurants and a host of retail that targeted the upper middle class.
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:31 AM
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It was and is the nicest strip center I can think of in Dekalb County south of Dunwoody.
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