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Old 05-25-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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Peak car
Yep. If you build to support only car dependency as Cobb has then you can only get so dense. Roads simply does not have the capacity that other alternatives do even when you widen highways to 18 lanes and surface streets to 9 lanes.

It will also be interesting to see how this slowing of growth impacts the county's worsening financial situation, because Cobb (like many suburban municipalities) are structured on the assumption of continued growth to pay for infrastructure. If you look at the number of Single Family Homes along a mile of suburban road then look at the costs of maintaining that mile of road, pipes, and other infrastructure you will find that their taxes are far from covering that maintenance let alone other county services, you know, such as professional baseball teams.
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Old 05-25-2018, 03:20 PM
 
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Cobb is has a lot of empty nesters.
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Old 05-25-2018, 05:06 PM
 
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Default Plenty of Undeveloped Land In Cobb

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County is getting built out, especially with a lot of the growth still being single-family homes.
As someone mentioned before, there is PLENTY of undeveloped land in Cobb. It's nowhere close to being built out, unless you only spend time in East Cobb.

West Cobb is really undeveloped, especially as you get close to Douglas County and Paulding County lines. There are a number of horse farms over there.

And remember, there's a piece of Cobb that's south of I-20 that includes the Six Flags theme park.
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:22 PM
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I should have clarified and said the *desirable* parts of Cobb County have bern built out.

West Cobb, where much of that undeveloped land is, has a relatively poor road network and no interstate highway access, so I don't expect a ton of growth in that area.
That's a little more accurate. There's plenty of room for growth.
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:24 PM
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As someone mentioned before, there is PLENTY of undeveloped land in Cobb. It's nowhere close to being built out, unless you only spend time in East Cobb.

West Cobb is really undeveloped, especially as you get close to Douglas County and Paulding County lines. There are a number of horse farms over there.

And remember, there's a piece of Cobb that's south of I-20 that includes the Six Flags theme park.
Cobb is pretty lightly developed as well below Vinings close to 285.
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Old 05-25-2018, 08:47 PM
 
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Growth rates generally slow as population increases. Percentage wise, the smallest counties will always grow fastest.
The answer ^^^^

Percentage and raw numbers aren't the same thing by raw numbers it's one of the largest gainer this decade.
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:37 PM
 
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Yep. If you build to support only car dependency as Cobb has then you can only get so dense. Roads simply does not have the capacity that other alternatives do even when you widen highways to 18 lanes and surface streets to 9 lanes.

It will also be interesting to see how this slowing of growth impacts the county's worsening financial situation, because Cobb (like many suburban municipalities) are structured on the assumption of continued growth to pay for infrastructure. If you look at the number of Single Family Homes along a mile of suburban road then look at the costs of maintaining that mile of road, pipes, and other infrastructure you will find that their taxes are far from covering that maintenance let alone other county services, you know, such as professional baseball teams.
Huh? Isnít Cobb significantly more dense than Fulton already?
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Old 05-26-2018, 12:27 AM
 
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Budget balancing issues because of too-low taxes is not the same thing as "financial issues". Cobb is like one of the wealthiest counties around, if not the wealthiest. We could EASILY solve our "financial issues", but the damn residents are so stubbornly doggedly fiscally conservative when it comes to any kind of taxation.
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Old 05-26-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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Huh? Isn’t Cobb significantly more dense than Fulton already?
Isn't that just another piece of evidence that Cobb is getting to peak car sooner than North and South Fulton? Fulton still has room to grow? Of course North Fulton already has heavy rail into perimeter with plans to extend further. South Fulton is still very rural and has some runway for growth but still wise for them to start looking at options.

City of Atlanta itself is about twice as dense as Cobb and has a faster growth rate than Cobb. And a lot of the new growth is next to transit. That certainly contradicts the density means slower growth rate narrative.

Is it really hard to accept that Cobb dependence's on the car / lack of transit is hurting their growth? Companies are directly saying it:
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The lack of viable mass transit in Cobb has had an economic toll on the county. Leithead said 45% of economic development prospects redline the county due to few transit options.
Even If Cobb Votes To Fund Transit In 2019, MARTA Rail Is Unlikely To Follow

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Old 05-26-2018, 01:41 PM
 
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City of Atlanta itself is about twice as dense as Cobb
Eh...about 50% higher. I mean...wow...shocking that the main city is more dense than a suburban county!

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and has a faster growth rate than Cobb.
Uhhh...maaaaybe within the few years, but Cobb has far, far, far outpaced Atlanta in growth for the last 70 years.

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And a lot of the new growth is next to transit. That certainly contradicts the density means slower growth rate narrative.
Whose narrative is that? A lot of the new growth is also not near transit, so I don't even know if there's a real factor at play there.
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