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Old 02-13-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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I know we have talked about the possibilities of getting high speed rail many times in the past.

While this article isn't specific to the ATL, it does have some good insights on why these things are so hard to build.

Why the United States will never have high-speed rail
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Old 02-13-2019, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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I know we have talked about the possibilities of getting high speed rail many times in the past.

While this article isn't specific to the ATL, it does have some good insights on why these things are so hard to build.

Why the United States will never have high-speed rail
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Imagine what it would take to build a line from New York City to Los Angeles ó or to Chicago, Houston or Phoenix.
No one is suggesting cross-country HSR, but rather connecting nearby population centers with each other; Was-Bos corridor, Chicago-St Louis (already has higher speed rail), Atlanta to Charlotte, etc.

We can upgrade our existing lines to carry higher speed rail between nearby population centers and compete with air travel and car trips between those 2.
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Old 02-13-2019, 05:58 PM
 
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Well it looks like California won't have it anytime soon.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cal...llooning-costs
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Well it looks like California won't have it anytime soon.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cal...llooning-costs
Fox News?!
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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No one is suggesting cross-country HSR, but rather connecting nearby population centers with each other; Was-Bos corridor, Chicago-St Louis (already has higher speed rail), Atlanta to Charlotte, etc.

We can upgrade our existing lines to carry higher speed rail between nearby population centers and compete with air travel and car trips between those 2.

Speed isnít my issue as much as horrible frequencies.

If AmTrak just took our all of the irrelevant stops, the trip alone would be much faster. Amtrak from CLT to ATL departs at 2am or something. Thatís irrelevant. Stopping off at every small town makes no sense. Amtrak stops at like 4 places in the Charlotte metro. In DC, it stops at both Alexandria and Union Station. Thereís just too many stops. MegaBus is faster and like $15. Amtrak is generally the most expensive, slowest (except Acela) and the worst frequencies. Cheaper 1 hour flight or a 9 hour train ride thatís more expensive than a flight.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Speed isnít my issue as much as horrible frequencies.

If AmTrak just took our all of the irrelevant stops, the trip alone would be much faster. Amtrak from CLT to ATL departs at 2am or something. Thatís irrelevant. Stopping off at every small town makes no sense. Amtrak stops at like 4 places in the Charlotte metro. In DC, it stops at both Alexandria and Union Station. Thereís just too many stops. MegaBus is faster and like $15. Amtrak is generally the most expensive, slowest (except Acela) and the worst frequencies. Cheaper 1 hour flight or a 9 hour train ride thatís more expensive than a flight.
Amtrak doesn't own the tracks so they are at the mercy of the freight railroads dispatch. Maybe 2am is the only available time on the track?
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Speed isn’t my issue as much as horrible frequencies.

If AmTrak just took our all of the irrelevant stops, the trip alone would be much faster. Amtrak from CLT to ATL departs at 2am or something. That’s irrelevant. Stopping off at every small town makes no sense. Amtrak stops at like 4 places in the Charlotte metro. In DC, it stops at both Alexandria and Union Station. There’s just too many stops. MegaBus is faster and like $15. Amtrak is generally the most expensive, slowest (except Acela) and the worst frequencies. Cheaper 1 hour flight or a 9 hour train ride that’s more expensive than a flight.
Amtrak, specifically the Crescent doesn't stop at "every small town" and it doesn't stop at 4 places in the Charlotte Metro, only Gastonia and Charlotte itself. It's the intermediate stops that generate most of the ridership. If it just stopped at Atlanta, Greenville, Charlotte, and D.C. it wouldn't have nearly the ridership it does, that's the chief advantage of a train over a plane, it can serve the intermediate destinations. As for DC, not everyone going to "DC" is going to someplace convenient to Union Station. If you're going to the Pentagon, it's a three stop ride on the Metro with no transfers, from Union Station, it's at least one transfer plus multiple stops. Pentagon City, Crystal City, and Arlington are all huge destinations in their own right, and even if you're not taking transit but a taxi or Uber or Lyft, those are all closer to Alexandria than Union Station and doesn't involve downtown D.C. traffic.



But as for the times, with a long distance train, it's a balancing act. Atlanta and Washington are two of the busiest stations on the route. Leaving Atlanta at 8pm, and arriving DC at 10am, and New York by 2pm is the best balance. If you shift those times to give Charlotte a better time, then you have garbage times at each end. The focus of the Crescent is not Atlanta to Charlotte, which despite that, STILL gets a lot of Charlotte ridership.
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Old Yesterday, 06:42 AM
 
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Have the NC folk already mentioned that the NC Railroad Authority who operates a profitable intrastate service between Raleigh and Charlotte with 3, soon 4 round trips daily, wants to bring hydrogen powered service to America between these two cities?

They certainly keep up with the latest trends worldwide.

Story:

https://www.charlottestories.com/ncd...e-and-raleigh/
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Old Yesterday, 02:56 PM
 
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Savannah via the state legislature is interested is connecting directly to Atlanta by passenger rail again: Legislators want to explore reviving the Nancy Hanks Passenger Rail Line
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Old Yesterday, 03:08 PM
 
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Savannah via the state legislature is interested is connecting directly to Atlanta by passenger rail again: Legislators want to explore reviving the Nancy Hanks Passenger Rail Line
OMG Yes please!
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