Census: Atlanta set to soon pass Philadelphia (Roswell, Marietta: home, vs.)

[Otakumaster]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

Just say you didn't like the Black people in Atlanta because it's obvious this is what you mean.

I was thinking this too. They love using coded language.

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

Just say you didn't like the Black people in Atlanta because it's obvious this is what you mean.

I didn't take the poster as being racist with this comment. I sorta thought the poster was taking an issue with rednecks, quite frankly.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by AnsleyPark

I didn't take the poster as being racist with this comment. I sorta thought the poster was taking an issue with rednecks, quite frankly.

I think so, too. But never mind, he brought the shade upon himself no matter what he meant.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

There similaities with them being landlock metros and there cultural similities in my opinion but even if Georgia had larger cities and counties, it would't have large employment areas as far out or equal to Plano.

Most of Atlanta employment areas are in the 5 core counties. Which is similar size as Dallas and Tarrant. But there would be no Denton and Collen County equal in metro Atlanta. The Outer counties are largely bedroom communities. But DFW is multi polar So Plano etc become high employment areas outside of Dallas and Tarant.

Roswell/Alpharetta/GA 400 corridor is about an equal distance to downtown Atlanta as Plano is to downtown Dallas. If Plano has any advantage of having more these days, the difference is the DFW airport is just to the west/southwest of the Plano Legacy development where Toyota, Hewlett Packard, JCPenney et al have set up shop. Think of DFW being about where Marietta is in relationship to Alpharetta and a 6 lane Tollway connecting it and you have Plano.

Remove the county lines, especially the Georgia ones that are more irregular than jigsaw puzzle pieces (compared to the square shaped Texas counties) and there is little difference. Plano is Dallas's Roswell and Frisco is Dallas's Alpharetta. That some aberration happened in the depression and Milton County joined Fulton is the oddity here. This employment center is just as major to Atlanta metro as Plano is to Dallas metro. Just because it is Fulton doesn't mean a thing in this comparison.

Chop Fort Worth off Dallas and move the airport to the south side add more hills and trees and voila! Atlanta West.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by bu2

Alpharetta could be like Plano in 15 years. Plano had EDS to jump start it. Prior to that, Richardson had the northern employment base, which is like Dunwoody having it here. Its not that different except that DFW is the size of Atlanta + one of those 2 million people metros you aren't enthused about.

Like I said before, that 2 million advantage you see in statistics is because of Fort Worth. When you are here on the ground in Dallas and don't go west to Fort Worth, the scope and sprawl and development is so similar between Dallas and Atlanta it is uncanny. And I have spent my entire life minus about 4 in either the orb of one of these two cities.

Scoring the Toyota relocoation and the other development in Legacy West is about the only thing that I would say gives Plano a heads up over Alpharetta. That the perimeter area of Sandy Springs and Dunwoody is still hot for relocations and new builds says something betterer about Atlanta overall. Would say the northern arc of 635 and up US 75 into Richardson has stalled in the last decade, nothing major or new. It's either in Uptown Dallas or out in Plano and Frisco where the major developments are happening. I like that Atlanta is still getting major development closer in instead of it all being further out like here in Dallas.

[jjbradleynyc]

Originally Posted by architect77

Atlanta's success and growth can be credited in part to the role it has played for the entire Southeast.

It has been the sole "big city" for several states, attracting their dreamers and outcasts (us gays) for over 70 years.

Philadelphia's proximity to NYC is a disadvantage sort of, as it can't be the destination drawing people in, because it's overshadowed by NYC.

To me, Philadelphia looks run down in general, the streets are very narrow downtown precluding it from accommodating the masses, and the population is far less attractive than NYC or D.C.

But this wasn't a comparison between the Atlanta and Philly.

Dissing Atlanta & its growth will always be the go-to for provincial Snow-belt cities' residents as they defend their cities that are losing population.

Seth McFarlane appears to do this on Family Guy by painting the South as uneducated and hillbilly, as he probably resents Rhode Island's declining population caused by a mass exodus to the Southern States.

All of these point above I completely agree with. Great points overall!

Atlanta has been a huge city draw for those coming from the rural/smaller towns in the southeastern US for decades, to get a dose of "big city life." This definitely has made Atlanta the go-to cultural and growth engine city for the southeastern US as a whole--adding to its booming growth over the years.

I've been to Philly many times, and its downtown is very nice and dense and vibrant, and while it has many neighborhoods that are beautiful and desirable, there are many parts of Philly that are absolutely awful, run down and littered with vacant buildings and crime. So, that comes with a city that had its peak population in 1950 of almost 2.1 million, and it has dropped to 1.6 today (although it is slowly growing again).

Lots of folks in the northeast love to diss on the southeast because its easy to do so (cultural twang stereotypes, drawls, hillbilly vibe, redneck, etc). And frankly, as you mentioned, its definitely stemming from a factor of defending their cities that are fading fast in both prominence and population.

Atlanta overall needs to get a handle on the public transportation piece. If traffic and sprawl can somehow be managed, the area will be even that much more of a desirable draw for folks to live.

[citidata18]

Originally Posted by jjbradleynyc

Atlanta has been a huge city draw for those coming from the rural/smaller towns in the southeastern US for decades, to get a dose of "big city life." This definitely has made Atlanta the go-to cultural and growth engine city for the southeastern US as a whole--adding to its booming growth over the years.

Actually, much of Atlanta's inward migration has been from cities in the Northeast and Midwest. Many of the natives have been pushed out to either the smaller cities in GA or the far outlying counties in Metro Atlanta that are still rural.

You can't turn a corner here (literally) without running into transplants from NYC, Chicago or Detroit. The main draw has been low COL (especially for New Yorkers), warmer weather / sunny winters and jobs (especially for Detroiters after the auto industry collapse).

[JMatl]

Originally Posted by citidata18

Actually, much of Atlanta's inward migration has been from cities in the Northeast and Midwest. Many of the natives have been pushed out to either the smaller cities in GA or the far outlying counties in Metro Atlanta that are still rural.

You can't turn a corner here (literally) without running into transplants from NYC, Chicago or Detroit. The main draw has been low COL (especially for New Yorkers), warmer weather / sunny winters and jobs (especially for Detroiters after the auto industry collapse).

Actually, our largest inflow of domestic migration is from South Florida now, followed closely by the NY Tri-State area. It's been this way for a couple of years. The collective Midwest is right behind them.

[primaltech]

Hey, it was inevitable that an out of state troll would show up in this thread and proceed to troll, and that such person would use the term "snowflakes". That's so 2018.

Fact: Atlanta's best days are most definitely not in the past, but in the future. The city and metro are only on the rise from here, in any given category you want to look at and examine. Except maybe in quaint old-time-y smallness or whatever.

While definitely we have our share of issues and challenges around here, we can be proud and happy to live here. I have my share of complaints, but am very proud to be from here and spent my life here.

Happy Independence Day, all! Cheers.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Hey, it was inevitable that an out of state troll would show up in this thread and proceed to troll, and that such person would use the term "snowflakes". That's so 2018.

Fact: Atlanta's best days are most definitely not in the past, but in the future. The city and metro are only on the rise from here, in any given category you want to look at and examine. Except maybe in quaint old-time-y smallness or whatever.

While definitely we have our share of issues and challenges around here, we can be proud and happy to live here. I have my share of complaints, but am very proud to be from here and spent my life here.

Happy Independence Day, all! Cheers.

Right back at you, PT.