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Old 10-27-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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You need to visit websites of all the new apartment complexes in Midtown.

They are offering 1-2 months of free rent at many of them.

These places are brand new & won't have bugs.

Our cockroaches are huge and scary, usually referred to as Palmetto bugs.

They aren't the same as the small German cockroaches that proliferate solely from dirty conditions, but rather these Palmettos come in from the outside wanting food warmth and moisture.

They can be 4" long and crawl on the ceiling with ease, and are super fast if you try to spray them.

But The Southeast and Florida have a robust industry of treating homes to keep them at bay.

Treatment isn't a threat to cats or dogs as now the technology is mostly based on having them transport bait (placed under appliances, etc.) to their nest to kill all of them.


Some big new apartment complexes literally across the street from Marta station in Midtown are:


Hanover West


Modera Midtown


Icon


The Atlantic apts on 14th.



Post Park Apts (15 years old)


Yook (or similar)


Azure on the park


12th & crescent (or similar)


Broadstone

Trace


All very close to what I think is the best park in the country, and I've lived in SoCal, NYC, Boston and NC.

It's the perfect size with different areas to seem big though running around its perimeter is just 3 miles.
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Old 10-27-2018, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I just checked Hanover Weston Peachtree's website.

They are offering 2 months free rent with 12 month lease.

I think the exterior is gorgeous and I'm an architect.

The big downside to this place is that it's at the corner of two very busy streets, and like Modera Midtown, it's close to the freeway.

Modera Midtown literally is on a street that's for the most part a freeway on/off ramp.

I couldn't deal with that but that's why they offer so many amenities inside.

I think Broadstone or Azure are much better, though be aware that Azure is right at a cluster of gay nightlife spots which is perfect for me but might not be for you.

A 2 br at Hanover is $2083 per month but subtract $4100 for the 2 free months.

Coming from the West, be prepared that that the tradeoff for enjoying Atlanta's beautiful trees and warm climate is that you'll have to endure a city with primitive street conditions, potholes, faded, unreadable signs that Atlantans are indifferent about. There is no oversight of practically anything. Bulbs in traffic signals can burn out and not be replaced for months even up to 2 years as one did in Buckhead a couple of years ago.

Corruption is a given in every public agency, etc.


I just want you to be prepared for city streets that are more like the 3rd world than the neat and tidy conditions in Western U.S. cities.

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Old 10-29-2018, 08:05 PM
 
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Hi there! Actually, our streets in Denver are total cr*!*p. Major potholes everywhere, and I've actually incurred quite a chunk of $$ repairing my vehicle from it. Flats are not uncommon in Denver.

Anyhoo - we are in Atlanta now and loving the fall weather!

We went by Azure but were quoted $2700 - wayy over our price range even with a free month or two.

We are finding that we LOVE Old Fourth Ward. Specifically, the area near Ponce City Market/Five Points. We toured AMLI Parkside and Anthem, right on the beltline. Price is right, apts. clean, neighborhood walkable. Problem is --- no MARTA station nearby. Is the only way to get downtown by car from here??

We didn't like Midtown as much. Too urban, too busy streets, too built up - like living downtown! Maybe we were in the wrong area?

Are there other areas similar to O4W that are near a train station?

We looked at Station R and Spoke (we loved Spoke), near a train station but not much nearby. Station R was pumping so much perfume in the place we think we'd really hate it. But Spoke was perfect, near a station, just didn't seem like much nearby to walk to (coffee shops, etc.)
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Old 10-29-2018, 08:10 PM
 
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Also, what about Lindbergh? Any apts., shops, restaurants near that station?
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Old 10-29-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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Also, what about Lindbergh? Any apts., shops, restaurants near that station?
The immediate and nearby area around the Lindbergh MARTA Station is a booming area with lots of quality apartment options, retail and at least about a dozen restaurants that range from specialty chains to fast food and roadside diners.

It is an area that has really boomed at times over the last 10-15 years or so, with only a relatively brief interruption in progress during the Great Recession downturn of the late 2000's and early 2010's.
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Old 10-29-2018, 08:49 PM
 
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Thank you! We will check it out. We really love Old Fourth Ward, but it seems we will be confined to driving to work if we stay here.

I heard that many here don't take MARTA. Why is that?

Perhaps we are wrong in thinking that it's better to live near a train station. Living in Old Fourth Ward would put us really close to work.
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Old 10-29-2018, 09:42 PM
 
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We are finding that we LOVE Old Fourth Ward. Specifically, the area near Ponce City Market/Five Points. We toured AMLI Parkside and Anthem, right on the beltline. Price is right, apts. clean, neighborhood walkable. Problem is --- no MARTA station nearby. Is the only way to get downtown by car from here??
The Route 2 Ponce De Leon Avenue/Druid Hills MARTA bus provides a bus link from the Ponce City Market area to the North Avenue MARTA Station where you can catch the train downtown on the MARTA Red/Gold Line.

(Route 2 Ponce De Leon Avenue/Druid Hills bus line)
https://itsmarta.com/2.aspx

People in Intown areas like Midtown, Old Fourth Ward and along the Northeastern Beltline also lean heavily on ridesharing services like Lyft and Uber to either transport them directly to places of employment that may be nearby or provide primary and/or supplemental links to and from relatively nearby MARTA heavy rail stations.

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We didn't like Midtown as much. Too urban, too busy streets, too built up - like living downtown! Maybe we were in the wrong area?
No, you definitely were in the right area.

Midtown Atlanta is a popular urban neighborhood district that is one of the top hubs for business and commerce in the Southeastern U.S.

Midtown is a district that is in very high demand because of its close proximity to one of the top engineering and technology schools in the nation (Georgia Tech) and its central location (in relation to Atlanta, Georgia and the Southeastern U.S.) and that has really thrived in recent years with the explosive boom of the IT (Tech) industry... An explosive IT boom that Midtown Atlanta has been one of the leading beneficiaries of on the North American continent.

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Are there other areas similar to O4W that are near a train station?
The City of Decatur proper is probably the only established Intown neighborhood village area that is similar to Old Fourth Ward that is directly on a MARTA heavy rail line.

The challenge with Decatur (and its popular downtown village area with shops and restaurants) is that it has been in such high demand at times over the past 2-3 years or so, that the rents there have increased.
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:30 PM
 
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Thank you! We will check it out. We really love Old Fourth Ward, but it seems we will be confined to driving to work if we stay here.

I heard that many here don't take MARTA. Why is that?
MARTA ridership appears to have risen somewhat over the last 5 years or so of economic and population boom in the areas along its heavy rail system.

But most of the greater Atlanta metropolitan area (an area that consists of about 29 counties or so in North Georgia) does not use MARTA and historically has been hostile to MARTA for multiple reasons.

One of the major reasons that a major transit system like MARTA may not get as much use as it probably should in large major metro with traffic issues like Atlanta is because of a severe Southeastern regional cultural and social aversion to public transportation... Something which many outside of the I-285 Perimeter continue to view as a sinister leftist plot to impose a one-world socialist government on the U.S.

Another major reason why a major transit system like MARTA may not get as much use as it probably should is because of intense fears by deeply conservative white suburbanites and exurbanites that transit would be used as a way for lower-income blacks and minorities to move and get into predominantly white surrounding suburban communities.

It is because of the often adversarial politics between Atlanta's predominantly proudly deeply conservative white suburbs/exurbs (beyond the I-285 Perimeter Highway) and Atlanta's largely black and proudly liberal/progressive urban core (traditionally inside of the I-285 Perimeter Highway) that the MARTA transit system does not reach beyond Fulton, DeKalb and Clayton counties.

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Perhaps we are wrong in thinking that it's better to live near a train station.
You are right to want to live near a train station to have relatively easier access to work without driving.

The problem is that the area around MARTA heavy rail stations has only really just started to develop (in the form of TOD/Transit-Oriented Development) in the last 10-15 years or so.

Before that, development was often intentionally built AWAY from MARTA heavy rail transit stations because of irrational fears about race, class, crime and ideology.

So much of the Atlanta urban and metro area continues to reflect the automobile-oriented, transit-averse development patterns that so thoroughly dominated the region before the turn-of-the-Millennium.

Meaning that the historically intentionally stunned growth of the MARTA system before the turn-of-the-Millennium has made rail transit-oriented living options less available than they probably should be in a large major metro area with traffic issues like Atlanta, even with the recent boom/explosion in transit-oriented options around MARTA heavy rail stations.

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Living in Old Fourth Ward would put us really close to work.
Even though it may not be located directly on a rail transit line, an area like Old Fourth Ward is still a desirable up-and-coming Intown neighborhood with much continued upside that would provide your spouse with very much desired short commute to and from their job in Downtown Atlanta.

The type of relatively very short commute that your spouse would experience to and from their job in Downtown Atlanta (about inside of 20 minutes each way) is particularly considered to be a very short commute by metro Atlanta standards where commute times of 2-3 hours each way (due to either traffic delays and/or distance) are not necessarily all that uncommon.
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Old 10-30-2018, 04:47 AM
 
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Hey, thanks for the information - it was SO helpful. So with all that said, I think MARTA is a better option for us. Living in Old Fourth Ward will confine us to cars - something we want to get away from. We have 2 right now, and want to go down to 1. I too will need to commute, but am not sure where - more than likely downtown as I'm in the legal field. That's where the big firms seem to be and big firms always pay more. We are in that life stage and age where it's important to make money now before our later years begin to slow down.

So living in Old Fourth Ward would mean we'd be having to juggle a commute together, which could get really, really hard. My spouse's job sometimes requires him to travel to other counties, so he's not always on a 8-5 schedule. Whereas mine would most likely be that.

I'll check out Decatur - thanks for that recommendation.

We have moved the buildings Spoke/Station R up on our list. Both are really close to MARTA heavy stations. Know anything about the areas they are in? Edgewood I think is the area and close to Little Five Points.

Also, are there any midtown areas that aren't quite as busy? We might be ok with highrise if we didn't feel like we were living in the middle of a freeway, lol.
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Old 10-30-2018, 06:38 AM
 
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Hey, thanks for the information - it was SO helpful. So with all that said, I think MARTA is a better option for us. Living in Old Fourth Ward will confine us to cars - something we want to get away from. We have 2 right now, and want to go down to 1. I too will need to commute, but am not sure where - more than likely downtown as I'm in the legal field. That's where the big firms seem to be and big firms always pay more. We are in that life stage and age where it's important to make money now before our later years begin to slow down.

So living in Old Fourth Ward would mean we'd be having to juggle a commute together, which could get really, really hard. My spouse's job sometimes requires him to travel to other counties, so he's not always on a 8-5 schedule. Whereas mine would most likely be that.
It understandably may seem like the largest law firms and best legal opportunities are concentrated in Downtown Atlanta.

But recognize that Atlanta is a metro area with a pretty spread out and very heavily decentralized commercial business/development pattern.

Great legal job and career opportunities are not just confined to Downtown, but will also be found in heavy numbers in other major business/commercial districts in the metro area like Midtown Atlanta, Greater Buckhead, Perimeter Center (on both the Dunwoody and Sandy Springs sides), Cumberland/Vinings, Peachtree Corners, Northlake/Tucker, Duluth, Suwanee, Marietta, Kennesaw, Johns Creek, etc.

I've got friends who are successful lawyers who have worked in law firms that are based in low and mid-rise buildings in outlying areas that are well outside of the I-285 Perimeter.

(...One of my friends worked for many years at a law firm that was based in a lower-rise building up in Kennesaw in Atlanta's northwestern outer suburbs, while another worked at a law firm that was located in Alpharetta in Atlanta's upscale northern suburbs up along the Georgia 400 corridor well outside of the I-285 Perimeter.)

Don't make the mistake of assuming that your future legal job will automatically be located in a high-rise building in Downtown Atlanta... That's especially when it is not at all out of the realm of possibility that a future legal job has the potential to be located in a seemingly far-flung suburb that will be well outside of the I-285 Perimeter.

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I'll check out Decatur - thanks for that recommendation.
Decatur is a great area to consider, if one can find something affordable there.

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We have moved the buildings Spoke/Station R up on our list. Both are really close to MARTA heavy stations. Know anything about the areas they are in? Edgewood I think is the area and close to Little Five Points.
Both developments are located in the greater Edgewood neighborhood area, which is an area that is continuing to rise in popularity (particularly amongst Millennial professionals) along with much of Intown Atlanta north of I-20.

Station R is located directly across the street from the Edgewood Retail District urbanish retail development... A retail development which includes some local and national chain restaurants along with such typical strip mall fare as Target, Kroger, Petco, Lowes, Best Buy, etc, in an early-2000's attempt at putting such stores in a more urbanized format with a 'Main Street' type setup of smaller shops surrounded by big box retailers... A retail development which, despite maybe having a few flaws in its physical setup, is still a really good retail amenity to live directly across from.

Station R is also located about only half a mile from Little Five Points village, which is a very unique funky Intown urban bohemian village district type of area with lots of interesting shops and restaurants that also is the site of multiple neighborhood festivals and celebrations throughout the year.

Meanwhile, Spoke is located virtually next to the Edgewood-Candler Park MARTA Station near a very light industrial area at the north end of a tree-lined residential neighborhood.

Spoke is located in a hot Intown neighborhood (Edgewood) that is located very close to a MARTA heavy rail station. But otherwise, retail amenities (the aforementioned Edgewood Retail District) and other popular Intown neighborhood districts (Little Five Points, Kirkwood, Virginia Highland, Decatur, etc) will be either a long walk or a short ride away.

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Also, are there any midtown areas that aren't quite as busy? We might be ok with highrise if we didn't feel like we were living in the middle of a freeway, lol.
If you are okay with renting either in an older building, a house or a lower-rise apartment complex, you could look in areas that potentially might offer you more quietness (relatively speaking) like the tree-lined residential neighborhoods west of the Downtown Connector (the Home Park area north of Georgia Tech) and directly south of Piedmont Park.

Though, probably most (if not all) of the high rises in Midtown are going to be along busy thoroughfares (like Peachtree Street, West P'tree, 10th Street, 14th Street, etc) that anchor one of the Southeastern United States' fastest-growing and most high-profile, high-demand urban neighborhoods in Midtown Atlanta.
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