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Old Today, 10:11 AM
 
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I don't want to share a lane with cyclists, as a pedestrian!
This is really why the bike path uses the street, rather than the sidewalk. Itís against the law here to ride a bike on the sidewalk.
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Old Today, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Since you put it that way....Yes. Yes, they are.

Vehicular traffic is crucial to the business of America. Next time your local restaurant gets a delivery of fresh vegetables via bicycle or a bike riding sanitation worker comes to your house to empty your garbage cans, let me know.
maybe if we had smaller trucks, we could encourage more recycling, composting, and reduce the amount of garbage produced.
COP Dr is not going to miss 1 lane from this stretch.
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Old Today, 10:30 AM
 
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Then who is going to haul all the recycling in CQ's Magical Wonderful Mythical Fantasyland?
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Old Today, 10:37 AM
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Then take away the lane all the way to CNN Center and give it to the park.

What's the point of bringing the lane back for a couple blocks after you've already made everybody merge over?

Of course, the road is already a complete disater, anyway. It magically becomes a 2-way road for no reason at Walton St. despite the fact that Spring Street, just one block over, is more than capable of carrying traffic in that direction. But you know, I guess it's too much for this city's planners to understand traffic works better one way when funneling people to and from Philips Arena and the Benz.

It's one of those things that was working just fine, and then they completely ruined it. Ask anybody who ever travels in the area when there is an event going on. Making Centennial Olympic Park Dr. a two-way road made things intensely worse. You've got two lanes of traffic going the wrong way when NOBODY needs to go that way (and if they do, they can easily just use Spring street, one block over).

I'm sick of everybody trying to fix this city and just making it worse. If you're going to fix it, then FIX IT. Or just leave it alone. At the very least, do no harm.
I don't think this area ever worked well during events.
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Old Today, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Just think, this protected bike lane provides another option for visitors to sporting events to get home; safely ride a bike east or northeast of COP.
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Old Today, 10:51 AM
 
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Yeah, all those Super Bowl visitors who are going to be riding bikes around.
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Old Today, 11:06 AM
 
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Are bicyclists so important that they can't share a path with pedestrians for one block? There's already a gigantic sidewalk there that's gotta be at least 12 feet wide.

Exactly!
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Old Today, 11:12 AM
 
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Yeah, all those Super Bowl visitors who are going to be riding bikes around.
This is larger than SB53, COP host several concerts.
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Old Today, 11:22 AM
 
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You're right. I'm sure just TONS of people are going to be riding bikes to those concerts. Especially since it's going to be in the 20s and 30s during the night and there are oh, so many places to safely lock up a bike at COP!

Are you ever going to join us in the real world?

I mean, I get what you're saying, and it's noble, but this represents an infinitesimal percentage of traffic in the area, so it makes absolutely no sense to dedicate 20% of an existing road to it. You're creating a solution for a demand that doesn't exist. I know you're a student of induced demand, but it doesn't work like that.
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Old Today, 11:31 AM
 
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You're right. I'm sure just TONS of people are going to be riding bikes to those concerts. Especially since it's going to be in the 20s and 30s during the night and there are oh, so many places to safely lock up a bike at COP!

Are you ever going to join us in the real world?

I mean, I get what you're saying, and it's noble, but this represents an infinitesimal percentage of traffic in the area, so it makes absolutely no sense to dedicate 20% of an existing road to it. You're creating a solution for a demand that doesn't exist. I know you're a student of induced demand, but it doesn't work like that.
Go back and reread my comment. COP host concerts outside of SB53 events. When Sweetwater 420 fest, Shaky Knees, etc. you don't expect people to ride scooters or bikes?
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