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Old 02-19-2019, 06:59 PM
 
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I am inferring that we should not be disrupting Peachtree St & spending millions of dollars babying drivers who are running off the road into the sidewalk. Fix the money to fix the street and slow the cars and make it safer for everyone. Don't spend millions to move utility poles and to treat pedestrians as a "recovery zone" to be run down.
Well now that you put it that way it does seem kind of strange that they are relocating them just to suite careless drivers. I dont have any explanation as to why they are doing it other than possibly the utility company tired of paying for damages to the utility poles. They can put lower speed limits but if someone is stupid enough to run into a power line, ignoring a speed limit wouldn't be that much harder.

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I understand burying power lines is expensive and not easy. I understand it's difficult to retrofit areas that are already well developed versus areas that are in the first stages of development. Burying power lines all across the metro would be quite expensive and difficult.

But still....this is Peachtree Road. I mean, buying power lines along the most important street in the city's most luxurious and wealthy neighborhood should be a no-brainer. They should do it in midtown, too. Is it too much to ask to at least not have those ugly lines on the main strip?

Imagine if the Las Vegas strip had overhead power lines.

The fact of the matter is, plenty of cities have figured out how to buy power lines and for whatever reason, decided it's worth it.
One should note that Las Vegas is one of the main tourist hub getaways within the country with its prestige being a heavy factor toward its financial success. The main strip of Las Vegas (Las Vegas Blvd) and Peachtree Rd are apples and oranges in every aspect of reality that they are literally north and south polar opposites in comparison to what they service. We are comparing a strip of casinos to business and apartment / condo orientated lifestyle.

One should also note that the entity of Las Vegas Blvd and alot of the development along that strip is also fairly new in their project to literally relocate downtown thus giving them the opportunity to reengineer the infrastructure in that region. Its much easier to see why they would have buried cables where as Atlanta does not depend as deeply in prestige as Las Vegas does for its success.

Of course it's important but... I can definitely see why it would be unlikely to be prioritized in the metro.
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:38 PM
 
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Well now that you put it that way it does seem kind of strange that they are relocating them just to suite careless drivers. I dont have any explanation as to why they are doing it other than possibly the utility company tired of paying for damages to the utility poles. They can put lower speed limits but if someone is stupid enough to run into a power line, ignoring a speed limit wouldn't be that much harder.
Agreed. Though, I am not advocating changing speed limits, speed limits' impact is pretty minimal. I am saying change the design speed. And things like obstructions near the roadway lower the design speed.
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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jsvh - How does a "design speed" differ from a speed limit?
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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jsvh - How does a "design speed" differ from a speed limit?
See many rural interstates. The SL maybe 70, but vehicles can go much faster because of how it's designed.
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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jsvh - How does a "design speed" differ from a speed limit?
In places like subdivisions they sometimes will employ islands every several hundred feet to cause traffic to slow down to maneuver around them. That or speed bumps. Things of this nature contribute to design speed in terms of slowing traffic down.

As for as Interstate Speed Limits, most interstates are easily capable of handling speeds well over 70 MPH in modern vehicles but speed limits are typically employed by local governments, contrary to belief, they are not employed by the engineers who designed the road.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:45 PM
 
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Maybe they can bury them so they aren't potential death hazards to motorists. I hit one when I was 16. Not on that stretch but over by Chastain Park.




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Old 02-20-2019, 03:22 PM
 
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Maybe they can bury them so they aren't potential death hazards to motorists. I hit one when I was 16. Not on that stretch but over by Chastain Park.
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No offense or anything but they are placed well out of the way of drivers. If someone veers off the road and hits one then I have to question their ability to control a vehicle. If we have to relocate powerlines which are not on the road in any case away to save them drivers, we have a bigger problem than power line placement
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:30 PM
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Cost me about 10 minutes today. There was one lane closed for about 100 ft.
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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jsvh - How does a "design speed" differ from a speed limit?
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See many rural interstates. The SL maybe 70, but vehicles can go much faster because of how it's designed.

On the other end, you could make the speed limit 70mph (or more likely, remove it all together) on a street designed like this and basically no one will go over 25mph:





(Look at all those obstructions near the street! Oh the horror and danger!!)
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Or we could just quit trying to make a major arterial road act like a quiet neighborhood street.
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