Legacy Communities (Atlanta, Smyrna, Forsyth: purchase, home inspection, closing)

[CreditWitch]

[quote=si7steve;2858350]I will be glad to keep you informed and updated. We have been super happy with the Legacy people at Hopewell Manor. QUOTE]

Lucky you. I canceled my contract with them in that very subdivision. The lot as you turn into the road with the pool, the first one on the right. Look how close the drainage is to the back of the house. Did they listen?? Nope. When we looked at getting standing inventory instead. I was SHOCKED that there where no gutters in the back of the homes (last May), the garage door operators where not wired into the sheet rock but stapled and repainted on the garage ceiling. I could go on and on. I am glad I canceled and lost my earnest money as the price when I contracted was starting in the $220k. NOW they are $180k per all the road signs. I bought in the DR Horton SubDiv down the road. Prices have not dipped in the year this all started.

Bottom line I choose not to buy in Hopewell due to poor quality and the investment would have been a loss had I bought there. DR Horton still building in same price range down the street, Legacy dips. You do the math.

This crap about more house for the money?? The one I contracted for in Hopewell was $252 with upgrades. I got the same footage, same upgrades in DR Horton for $240 last May including all closing costs. I actually have some equity as now they are selling for $255 and NO loss. Can you say the same? Don’t buy into the “more square footage if you can live with the shody fit and finish”.

I am not saying DR Horton is the end all and be all as I have my issues with them as well. BUT I did not loose any money AND my subdiv is not liened to the hilt unlike Hopewell manor. Seems like they stopped paying their vendors in there.

Don’t buy from Legacy!!! You risk loss on your investment IMO

[CreditWitch]

OH the plant? Funny thing that when i went in to cancel my contract and they were SHOCKED as to the reason i was canceling I told them to look at this message board. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[CreditWitch]

Originally Posted by arameth

I do have some insight though from an "insider" who is familiar with Legacy's way of doing business. I'm told that they use subcontractors to build the homes (no big secret here). The scary/interesting thing is that any warranty work to be done after closing comes out of the sub's pocket. So take a guess how willing these guys are to fix anything that needs to be addressed, which directly impacts their bottom line? Add to that the fact that they are subs, and typically don't care about Legacy getting their reputation trashed, as they have already been paid for their work and their name stays out of the mess...

FYI...all builders use subcontractors to build homes. For example, Plymart does the framing, Cemex does the concrete, Georgia Floors does the floors...nobody just drops off material and leaves it to the builder's crew to build the house. Houses would be exreamly over priced. As far as warranty....builders have an implied - in - fact warranty contract. They are to fix the stuff and back charge the subs. OR the subs have the right to come out and attempt to repair. it is in the fine print in EVERY warranty contract.

Get your facts straight about the building industry. granted I am not a fan of Legacy but the practices you sight are done by EVERY builder in Atlanta except for some custom builders.

[CreditWitch]

Originally Posted by si7steve

Why do you say there are Tons of liens? Where do you get your information? What is a ton to you??

Thank you for sharing and I presume you have good intension's. We are in Hopewell Manor and I get my inspection this week. So I am sure there are no liens on this house..

Little info I am a credit manager in the building industry. I have a private business I own that specializes in lien filing and management. I have no intentions good or bad. I just have the info from Magistrate. A ton to me is 30% of lots liened.

Just because you are closing with in a week does not mean you are lien free. See my postings here on construction liens. I get calls ALL the time from closing attourneys if I filed a day before closing. Either I get paid or you do not close. I can even file a lien after we drop off appliances the day after close. I have 90 days from the date of install. Dont tell me to go to heck when i call to get that lien paid as you have "title insurance". I have yet to ever get paid from a title insurance company. What happens then? I perfect my lien and one can never resell or refinance until my lien gets paid. There is a reason why my sales guys and builders call me the Credit Witch. I can be their bestfriend or worst enemy.

The average Georgia homeowner knows nothing of Georgia Mechanics Lien laws.

[si7steve]

[quote=CreditWitch;2863648]

Originally Posted by si7steve

I will be glad to keep you informed and updated. We have been super happy with the Legacy people at Hopewell Manor. QUOTE]

Lucky you. I canceled my contract with them in that very subdivision. The lot as you turn into the road with the pool, the first one on the right. Look how close the drainage is to the back of the house. Did they listen?? Nope. When we looked at getting standing inventory instead. I was SHOCKED that there where no gutters in the back of the homes (last May), the garage door operators where not wired into the sheet rock but stapled and repainted on the garage ceiling. I could go on and on. I am glad I canceled and lost my earnest money as the price when I contracted was starting in the $220k. NOW they are $180k per all the road signs. I bought in the DR Horton SubDiv down the road. Prices have not dipped in the year this all started.

Bottom line I choose not to buy in Hopewell due to poor quality and the investment would have been a loss had I bought there. DR Horton still building in same price range down the street, Legacy dips. You do the math.

This crap about more house for the money?? The one I contracted for in Hopewell was $252 with upgrades. I got the same footage, same upgrades in DR Horton for $240 last May including all closing costs. I actually have some equity as now they are selling for $255 and NO loss. Can you say the same? Don’t buy into the “more square footage if you can live with the shody fit and finish”.

I am not saying DR Horton is the end all and be all as I have my issues with them as well. BUT I did not loose any money AND my subdiv is not liened to the hilt unlike Hopewell manor. Seems like they stopped paying their vendors in there.

Don’t buy from Legacy!!! You risk loss on your investment IMO

You say so many things but don't back up your statements with facts. The fact is that all the homes in Hopewell do come with gutters, do you want pictures? Or if you are right next door, drive by to see for yourself. I assume they dont hookup garage door openers until the power is turned on and that is why you saw the wires on the ceiling.

I wish someone would back up the lien statements or simply stop making them. So far these types of statements are just not helping your cause. It seems so far that Hopewell is a great community and perhaps not all Legacy neighborhoods are created equal.

IT IS OK TO BUY FROM LEGACY. They are much better than a few people here are trying to make them out to be.

So far for me, Hopewell Manor is the Best!! We really look forward to living there.

FYI, I do NOT work for Legacy or have any thing to do with that company other than being a possible customer.

[CreditWitch]

[quote=si7steve;2863910]

Originally Posted by CreditWitch

You say so many things but don't back up your statements with facts. The fact is that all the homes in Hopewell do come with gutters, do you want pictures? Or if you are right next door, drive by to see for yourself. I assume they dont hookup garage door openers until the power is turned on and that is why you saw the wires on the ceiling.

I wish someone would back up the lien statements or simply stop making them. So far these types of statements are just not helping your cause. It seems so far that Hopewell is a great community and perhaps not all Legacy neighborhoods are created equal.

IT IS OK TO BUY FROM LEGACY. They are much better than a few people here are trying to make them out to be.

So far for me, Hopewell Manor is the Best!! We really look forward to living there.

FYI, I do NOT work for Legacy or have any thing to do with that company other than being a possible customer.

LAST Feb when I decided not buy there I saw on this very board that they were missing gutters from the back. When i went in as I HAD A CONTRACT I verified this. I pointed this ou to the sales agent and also this post. Do you not think they had time to fix it in over a year? Fax...you want me to mail you my old contract? Go check the very lot I described you.

IT IS AGAINST CODE to have electric wiring on a finished house stapled to a ceiling. FIRE hazzard!!! The house was presented as 100% move in ready.

You are most likely not a an employess only someone who bought in a subdivision that dropped in price DRASTICALLY. Ask anyone that saw the signs on 400 that went from $220k to $180K!

What is the other thing I said that was not fact Steve O? I CHALLENGE you to march to Magistrate in Forsyth and ask for the deed book for Hopewell. Go count the liens bud. Do your homework. Read every post I have ever written about Legacy and you will see I once supported them until i fell out of contract with them. More facts.

YOU BOUGHT IN A SUBDIVISION AND LOST MONEY!!!!! FACT

[CreditWitch]

btw Steve O....you hold no credibility with this forum as you only created an account to defend your bad investment. I check all your posts.


YAWNNN

[si7steve]

Originally Posted by CreditWitch

btw Steve O....you hold no credibility with this forum as you only created an account to defend your bad investment. I check all your posts.


YAWNNN

I counter your YAWNNNN.

I can leave right now and loose $1 LOL

I am so sorry you have had bad luck and please no hard feelings.

[si7steve]

Originally Posted by si7steve

I counter your YAWNNNN.

I can leave right now and loose $1 LOL

I am so sorry you have had bad luck and please no hard feelings.

So obviously I am not trying to protect anything at this point. $1 in earnest money, nothing to loose so as you can see I am just telling the truth here.

I am certainly not out to put you down. I can't say enough that if you had a bad experience that is a shame and I am truly glad you found something that suites you. It seems inappropriate though to say because of your one bad time that Legacy as a whole is bad. For some reason there is a small minority of people on here trying VERY hard to say highly negative things about Legacy. When others like me (who actually represent a larger majority of posters) counter saying that we have had nothing but an over all good experience it seems someone really jumps on them.

You are right that if someone has real issues with Legacy, sure post away. But don't just label Legacy as "no one should use Legacy Homes" because 5 people on this web site had issues. All complaints at the BBB have been resolved. I know my home won't have liens on it because my mortgage company wouldn't allow it. I really presume this is true of anyone else living there. I have talked to some of the neighbors and so far I have not found any serious complaints and everyone one so far has been glad they purchased. They all said they were happy and that any problems they did have were fixed quickly. No one complained of delays or of being jacked around. They all said the opposite.

I would be willing to go take the time and check on these claims of liens if someone could give me some small reason to do it. I don't see any reason to believe any stories of liens. Please show me some reason to believe this.

Another thing, why are you STILL so interested in Hopewell if you moved on? If you are really concerned, please go meet with neighbors and REAL people living there like I have done. I think it is a normal neighborhood and I wish others would quit throwing around claims that carry no facts with them.

Show me something that will lend credit to what you are saying. Be more specific about the lot you looked at here in Hopewell and I will be glad to see if there are no gutters. Although I am sure there will be.

Hopewell Manor is a good place to buy. At least I still don't see a reason to believe it isn't. If I find anything negative, I promise to post about it here.

I really wish you all the best in your (new?) home and maybe we can just let this be. I am not looking to make anyones life hard, I am simply sharing my experiences so others can hear both sides. Mine has been great and I can point to many others in this long thread that were also good ones!

All the best to you!

[CreditWitch]

Are you even reading my posts????

1. The lot I looked at that was move in ready was a year ago. Since then it has gutters AFTER I pointed out it did not and after I pointed out Legacy had a rep for no gutters to the Hopewell Sales team and builder.

2. 10 years in the credit industry for building materials I KNOW what Legacy is about.

3. An intrest still? As a credit manager in the building suppy industry this is my duty. It keeps my clients informed. I also have an intrest in one of thier partners and a lawsuit I filed when he opperated in another company. I also drive past it every day on the way home and giggle that I did not buy there and loose money.

4. I am qualified to voice my opinion due a business course of dealing like you, a business relationship with the builder at one time, proffesional and knowledge shared with other credit managers at trade group meetings.

5. I post in several forums, Atlanta, Maine, Business and Finance. You only created a profile to due damage control on your subdivision. I will let the forum decide who has the credibility here Steve O. Give it up. Forums are to post opinions and info not regain lost property values with a Builder that has a reputation with the community, BBB, this forum, and business supply vendors.

By the way....I will be surprised of the Mod does not delete this whole thread as it is against posting rules to bash a business.