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Old 06-25-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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For now, but eventually lower income people will come once more housing stock and job opportunities come around.
I doubt that, most of the housing stock that's built in South Forsyth and Alpharetta are on the higher side of the median home price in the metro area. Honestly it's hard to find any new construction for less than 500K in South Forsyth and Alpharetta at this point. Also most of the residents work in the high paying tech sector that extends from Alpharetta to Midtown.
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:12 AM
 
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I doubt that, most of the housing stock that's built in South Forsyth and Alpharetta are on the higher side of the median home price in the metro area. Honestly it's hard to find any new construction for less than 500K in South Forsyth and Alpharetta at this point. Also most of the residents work in the high paying tech sector that extends from Alpharetta to Midtown.
Yeah, I'm thinking lower income people will be relegated to the counties along I-20 and especially the counties in the Southside, in closer proximity to the unskilled/low-paying employment opportunties and where housing is still affordable.

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Old 06-25-2019, 11:19 AM
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Yeah, I'm thinking lower income people will be relegated to the counties along I-20 and especially the counties in the Southside, in closer proximity to the unskilled/low-paying employment opportnuties and where housing is still affordable.
There are no opportunities of this nature in south Forsyth and north Fulton, I suppose. Are all the convenience stores, restaurants, dry cleaners et al going robotic?
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:36 AM
 
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There are no opportunities of this nature in south Forsyth and north Fulton, I suppose. Are all the convenience stores, restaurants, dry cleaners et al going robotic?
A benefit of attracting a ton of young families (which North Fulton / South Forsyth does quite well compared to other parts of Metro Atlanta) is that they will have children who grow up into teenagers/college students that live at home but can fill many of those jobs.

Beyond that, there's also the housing affordability problem. Adult workers who fill unskilled/low-paying jobs simply aren't able to afford the housing that exists in North Fulton / South Forsyth. Thus, they're forced to commute from other parts of the metro area to work at the restaurants/dry cleaners/convenience stores.

Don't forget, there's also logistics/non-advanced manufacturing jobs which are relatively limited in North Fulton / South Forsyth (because the land is more expensive and the local workforce is overqualified for those jobs), but are in great supply south of Atlanta.
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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The wealthier white families are getting concentrated towards Avalon, Alpharetta downtown and Milton.
Asians are somewhat taking over the Alpharetta area also. The demographics in a couple of the elementary schools in the Alpharetta HS zone are similar to South Forsyth. It makes sense as Alpharetta has what Asians covet- top schools, other Asians, new construction homes, and access to high-paying jobs.

Milton is still heavily white but I think that trend will slowly change also. Actually, the Chattahoochee HS zone will be a good one for white flight people. The housing stock there tends to be older and cheaper, and there is almost zero new construction, so I feel like whites will remain the majority there in the long-term. We actually originally targeted the Chattahoochee zone (ended up in Lambert zone due to more housing options).
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Old 06-25-2019, 12:41 PM
 
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Asians are somewhat taking over the Alpharetta area also. The demographics in a couple of the elementary schools in the Alpharetta HS zone are similar to South Forsyth. It makes sense as Alpharetta has what Asians covet- top schools, other Asians, new construction homes, and access to high-paying jobs.

Milton is still heavily white but I think that trend will slowly change also. Actually, the Chattahoochee HS zone will be a good one for white flight people. The housing stock there tends to be older and cheaper, and there is almost zero new construction, so I feel like whites will remain the majority there in the long-term. We actually originally targeted the Chattahoochee zone (ended up in Lambert zone due to more housing options).
Yeah, Alpharetta is already 20% Asian and it will be close to 40% Asian in the next ten years if the trends continue. I look at Alpharetta and South Forsyth as one region because most of the developed part of South Forsyth is abutting Alpharetta and is really an extension of Alpharetta demographics into Forsyth.

Milton and Chattahoochee will change too albeit not as heavily as Alpharetta or South Forsyth..

Avalon to DT Alpharetta will trend wealthy white for the next few years..
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Old 06-25-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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Asians are somewhat taking over the Alpharetta area also. The demographics in a couple of the elementary schools in the Alpharetta HS zone are similar to South Forsyth. It makes sense as Alpharetta has what Asians covet- top schools, other Asians, new construction homes, and access to high-paying jobs.

Milton is still heavily white but I think that trend will slowly change also. Actually, the Chattahoochee HS zone will be a good one for white flight people. The housing stock there tends to be older and cheaper, and there is almost zero new construction, so I feel like whites will remain the majority there in the long-term. We actually originally targeted the Chattahoochee zone (ended up in Lambert zone due to more housing options).
Yeah, if you want to avoid a school that will be majority Asian in the next couple of years avoid Alpharetta, Lambert, South Forsyth and Denmark. Also, I have noticed that West Forsyth, Milton and Cambridge also have a fast growing Asian population and I predict those two schools will have a higher proportion of Asians than Hooch and Johns Creek in the next couple of years(more so Hooch than Johns Creek as Johns Creek/Autrey Mill still has a growing Asian population).
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Old 06-26-2019, 08:10 PM
 
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Good Job Forsyth! Glad to hear the days of Keep Forsyth White are long gone.... Now that the county is diversifying, lets see if the area can keep the optimism and positivity. I found it quite funny reading the comments that were more focused on the caliber of Asians based on their job and house size. You can`t select the caliber of a group of people....

The migration of people attracts all income levels. As the city grows bigger the suburban areas develop dense parts and the cycle continues. I know Forsyth is battling a Fuqua development now but the bartender, store clerk, waiter and student need a place to live too now... You can only fight for so long. ...I was raised in Gwinnett, graduated from Peachtree Ridge and the area I lived is about 50% Asian 50% everybody else. But about 4 miles away you hit 85 corridor and have Pleasant Hill. I`m not afraid of that level of diversity because to me honestly the days of living in a bubble are so pre- 2001. BUT I do sometimes get annoyed with all the Asian characters. I do wish they’d display English first, then the characters below or adjacent to the signage....

I honesty do wonder sometimes where the white people are. Lol... Just being honest. I do see some at the grocery store or jogging in the morning, walking dogs on the weekend, but I don’t see as much as I used to when I was younger. I think for Gwinnett they are more comprised in Dacula area, Buford/ Sugarhill, and on a metropolitan scale, simply moving back into the city. But I do know birth rates show people of color are reproducing significantly more than white so I think this is the new normal for suburban America, Forsyth and new waves of suburbia.

I closed two homes in Forsyth. One in Lambert District at 384K another in South Forsyth at 252K. Housing stock of Forsyth is identical to Gwinnett. The only exception is the portion that borders Milton, N. Fulton, and that area by the new Denmark HS. That’s when you start to hit OTP Atlanta wealth, which I feel that area will keep that level of dominance and wealth.... But honestly, the developers are building housing stock to me that simply isn’t distninguised. Lenar is building Mountaincrest but when you look at the homes, they are quite typical for a suburb.... And that’s a MASSIVE community. I think it falls in the average cycle of longevity with migration, and changing income levels... As for the rest.... It’s just a cycle y’all.

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Old 06-27-2019, 06:10 AM
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I honesty do wonder sometimes where the white people are. Lol... Just being honest. I do see some at the grocery store or jogging in the morning, walking dogs on the weekend, but I don’t see as much as I used to when I was younger. I think for Gwinnett they are more comprised in Dacula area, Buford/ Sugarhill, and on a metropolitan scale, simply moving back into the city.
This scenario is so reminiscent of present-day London or Paris, where diversity is concentrated in the outer ring neighborhoods.
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Old 06-27-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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Asians are somewhat taking over the Alpharetta area also. The demographics in a couple of the elementary schools in the Alpharetta HS zone are similar to South Forsyth. It makes sense as Alpharetta has what Asians covet- top schools, other Asians, new construction homes, and access to high-paying jobs.

Milton is still heavily white but I think that trend will slowly change also. Actually, the Chattahoochee HS zone will be a good one for white flight people. The housing stock there tends to be older and cheaper, and there is almost zero new construction, so I feel like whites will remain the majority there in the long-term. We actually originally targeted the Chattahoochee zone (ended up in Lambert zone due to more housing options).
I am closing on a new home in three chimney's which is less than a mile from Lambert but I am zoned for South Forsyth, have to think they will build another high school within lambert hs to take some pressure off Lambert.
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