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Old 07-05-2019, 12:27 PM
 
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I donít think it was appropriate for him to say it. At all. Given the 2016 choices I weighed the two and voted what I felt was the less poor option. When I see the line up for 2020 I will do the same. If the ultimate candidate for the Democrats is Sanders or Warren it would be almost impossible for me to vote for them given their platforms.

As of last week, the Federal Reserve Bank of NY predicts a 30% chance of a recession in the next 12 months. Most economists still predict 2% growth this year.

And if youíre not pleased with the market then I donít know what will please you. Perhaps you prefer a socialist candidate offering $20 an hour but the Dow is at 5000?

It wasn't just inappropriate, he was basically saying it's okay to sexually assault women. Of course because of his white/wealth privilege, he doesn't have to worry about the consequences of his actions like other people do. Instead he can get elected to the highest office in the land.



I was referring to the inverted yield curve: https://www.npr.org/2019/06/30/73747...reason-to-worr
Not the only reason by the way but it seems to be a solid indicator.



I never said anything about me being pleased with the market or not. You said something about the economy is good under him and I was just saying the trade war he's pushing is likely to have an effect on the world economy. Some economists are saying it already has (especially regarding the US economy).

 
Old 07-05-2019, 01:06 PM
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I donít agree with much of what you say generally but I do agree that all people should be treated with dignity, be clothed, fed and have access to sanitary facilities. But I donít trust AOCís version of the truth either, as she freely admitted you donít have to be 100% honest when advancing oneís agenda. One of her previous poses decrying the fenced in people was shown to have her facing a road leading to the facility...all staged.
You guys are scared to death of AOC. What could possibly be gained from falsely saying what was happening in these camps? Do you think these camps are being run well and the people treated well?

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We need to quickly send away those who enter illegally. We need to humanely house those who are legitimately and legally seeking asylum.

But that also requires facilities to be built to accommodate the many who are entering, which many here are against.
Who? Who here is against having decent facilities for people being held? Please, find me one person. The facilities don't have to look like Trump Tower (you know, full of cheesy as hell gold and marble), but they should at least have facilities worthy of the United States living conditions.

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Given the 2016 choices I weighed the two and voted what I felt was the less poor option.
I cannot, in any way, figure out how Trumnpwas the "less poor option". Clinton had faults for sure, and you may not have liked her policies. But Trump is far, far past just not liking policies.

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And if youíre not pleased with the market then I donít know what will please you. Perhaps you prefer a socialist candidate offering $20 an hour but the Dow is at 5000?


The market has barely changed in the last 18 months. It's up only 800 points over January 1, 2018, and at its highest level. It's been down quite a bit, and somewhat volatile. Nothing to be excited about in that market.

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I donít like him either, but am overall pleased with the economy and his stance on illegal immigration which is far more important to me than social justice issues.
How pleased were you with the economy under Obama?

Because not much has changed since Trump came in. Yet, for some reason, conservatives decried Obama as the worst thing to ever happen to the economy, while saying Trump is one of the best. But, here's the thing: the path of the economy didn't change. Unemployment had been going down for almost the entirety of Obama's tenure, and has gone down just one percentage point since Trump entered office. But somehow, Trump has been great for employment. The market had been steadily rising for most of Obama's tenure (except the last year or so), then had a short bump after Trump came in followed by 18 months of volatile stagnation. But somehow, Trump has been great for the stock market. The labor force participation rate has not changed since Trump entered office. But somehow, Trump has been great for labor. The national debt has gone up $2.1 trillion since Trump entered office (29 months), which is about equal to the previous 29 months. But somehow, Trump has been the debt.

So, I ask again...how pleased were you with the economy under Obama?
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