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Old 07-18-2019, 04:11 AM
 
Location: atlanta
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undoing pretty much every decision they made with the last fleet of buses would be a good start. narrow, hard seats, four security monitors and the greeting everytime the door opens is that "assaulting a MARTA employee will get you 20 years in prison". the ride is so orwellian and unpleasant it puts everyone in a sour mood and makes the situation worse. i feel like the people designing the buses are consciously or subconsciously expressing the way they feel about the average bus rider through the design. and it's kind of insulting.
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Old 07-18-2019, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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undoing pretty much every decision they made with the last fleet of buses would be a good start. narrow, hard seats, four security monitors and the greeting everytime the door opens is that "assaulting a MARTA employee will get you 20 years in prison". the ride is so orwellian and unpleasant it puts everyone in a sour mood and makes the situation worse. i feel like the people designing the buses are consciously or subconsciously expressing the way they feel about the average bus rider through the design. and it's kind of insulting.
Really? I have found the new generation of buses to be much better than the previous New Flyer D40LF
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Old 07-18-2019, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Upper Westside
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Iím disappointed it wasnít cqholt who got the position. The man was born for this role.
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Old 07-20-2019, 10:53 AM
 
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Really? I have found the new generation of buses to be much better than the previous New Flyer D40LF
I agree. I love the new buses.
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Old 07-20-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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And make the routes straight and logical that follow one road corridor.
This is Atlanta. We have very limited roads where this would work because we have a very limited road network and lots of sprawl. That's why I think exclusive ROW transit and transit supportive development will be more important here than in most other cities. In Miami, where everything is on a grid, the buses are efficient and frequent while the train is pretty useless (so far).
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Old Today, 06:57 AM
 
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It looks like Flood the Zone is working for Austin; maybe we should revisit it in the ATL?



CapMetro boasts increase in transit ridership one year since major route changes
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Old Today, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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It looks like Flood the Zone is working for Austin; maybe we should revisit it in the ATL?



CapMetro boasts increase in transit ridership one year since major route changes
While I agree MARTA's bus network needs a major overhaul, cities that saw bus ridership increase (Houston, Austin, and Seattle) did so because they focuses higher frequency on a few key routes, not "Flood the Zone."
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"We tripled the number of routes that run on high frequencies," said Clarke. "So that's 15 minutes or less, and [it] really created better connectivity throughout the city that included on Saturdays and Sundays."
CapMetro eliminated some routes, while increasing frequency others.
https://capmetro.org/remap-summary/#!
We have seen MARTA do this a a few routes thru their Fast Track Program.

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Old Today, 08:58 AM
 
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Well, I think getting the frequency up to 15 minutes or less is part of the FTZ strategy. Get a ton of buses out there in areas where people need them.
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Old Today, 09:11 AM
 
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Well, I think getting the frequency up to 15 minutes or less is part of the FTZ strategy. Get a ton of buses out there in areas where people need them.
Come on, it's not that simple. You have to have trained, licensed drivers to operate those buses and that has been a big issue for MARTA lately.
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Old Today, 09:53 AM
 
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Come on, it's not that simple. You have to have trained, licensed drivers to operate those buses and that has been a big issue for MARTA lately.
Must be a booming economy if there are not enough people around to fill these jobs. Getting a job with MARTA used to be considered a real plum. These are solid, long-term, good paying positions with great benefits. And you don't need an advanced degree.

How do we get more workers into our transportation system?
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