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Old Yesterday, 11:20 PM
 
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I look at lots of schools in the area while looking for houses and researching different neighborhoods. One consistent finding with the schools everywhere is that low income students, black students, and hispanics students usually score lower on state mandated standardized test. But Hillgrove High in Powder Springs has somehow managed to get low income students to achieve on the same level as everyone else, and there is very little difference among the races. What are they doing, how are they teaching? The average ACT score at the school is only 22( state average 21), but the amount of kids proficient in every subject is well above state average.

https://www.greatschools.org/georgia...e-High-School/
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Old Today, 12:26 AM
 
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While I am sure that there are things that Powder Springs is doing right, my guess is that there is also a bit of self selection going on there that is making the success possible. You have an area that does not have entrenched poverty that has a reputation for academic excellence, but also has areas that are just affordable enough for low income families to move there. So, the lower income families that value education the most are the ones to move there (you see a similar thing taking place in Lilburn at Parkview High). It would be harder to replicate in an area that already had entrenched poverty, or did not have a reputation for excellence—without instituting a charter school—which really is another form of self-selection.
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Old Today, 02:47 AM
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Good point. And we also cannot ignore the unicorn effect: One or a few teachers who are willing to go well beyond what any district has any right to expect can make a big difference.
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Old Today, 06:54 AM
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My child recently graduated from Hillgrove. My conclusion is that many of the black students are from middle class families, and some of the disadvantaged students likely are transfers from another neighboring district ... therefore, the parent(s) have a desire to have their child in a better performing school.

Let's be honest and make reference to the "black students" since racial disparities are common in schools. The Hillgrove district is in a part of west Cobb that is sandwiched between the lower income areas to the south and the higher income areas to the north. It is a solid middle class district, with both an upper-middle population and some lower income families. Many of the black and white kids have similar middle class backgrounds, so it seems logical that the test scores would reflect that. My white child had several black friends, and the clubs/activities/music/sports had a great mix of both black/white.

The prior principal, Christian Suttle, was a superstar in my opinion, and he took a high level job with the school system two years ago. He set a great foundation for the kids who recently graduated. The current principal has been there two years, and I will reserve judgment on that. I will say that I was much more impressed with Mr. Suttle.

The challenge for Hillgrove going forward is a potential demographic/economic shift in west Cobb similar to the south Cobb changes. Probably not anytime soon, but that could be a long-term issue.
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Old Today, 05:13 PM
 
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My child recently graduated from Hillgrove. My conclusion is that many of the black students are from middle class families, and some of the disadvantaged students likely are transfers from another neighboring district ... therefore, the parent(s) have a desire to have their child in a better performing school.

Let's be honest and make reference to the "black students" since racial disparities are common in schools. The Hillgrove district is in a part of west Cobb that is sandwiched between the lower income areas to the south and the higher income areas to the north. It is a solid middle class district, with both an upper-middle population and some lower income families. Many of the black and white kids have similar middle class backgrounds, so it seems logical that the test scores would reflect that. My white child had several black friends, and the clubs/activities/music/sports had a great mix of both black/white.

The prior principal, Christian Suttle, was a superstar in my opinion, and he took a high level job with the school system two years ago. He set a great foundation for the kids who recently graduated. The current principal has been there two years, and I will reserve judgment on that. I will say that I was much more impressed with Mr. Suttle.

The challenge for Hillgrove going forward is a potential demographic/economic shift in west Cobb similar to the south Cobb changes. Probably not anytime soon, but that could be a long-term issue.
This. Exactly this.

There are a large number Black middle class and upper-middle class families in the Hillgrove district. And itís a beautiful area.
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Old Today, 09:08 PM
 
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There are some middle schools in metro Atlanta that come close, but the testing gaps do seem to widen in high school. Elite Scholars does well, but they are a magnet, and require students to pass the milestones to get accepted.

Rising Starr (Fayette County/Peachtree City)
https://www.greatschools.org/georgia...Middle-School/

Dickerson (Cobb/Marietta)
https://www.greatschools.org/georgia...Middle-School/

High Tower Trail (Cobb/Marietta)
https://www.greatschools.org/georgia...Middle-School/

Riverwatch: (Forsyth/Suwanee)
https://www.greatschools.org/georgia...Middle-School/

Elite Scholars
https://www.greatschools.org/georgia...olars-Academy/

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Old Today, 09:29 PM
 
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There are some middle schools in metro Atlanta that come close, but the testing gaps do seem to widen in high school. Elite Scholars does well, but they are a magnet, and require students to pass the milestones to get accepted.

Rising Starr (Fayette County/Peachtree City)
https://www.greatschools.org/georgia...Middle-School/

Dickerson (Cobb/Marietta)
https://www.greatschools.org/georgia...Middle-School/

High Tower Trail (Cobb/Marietta)
https://www.greatschools.org/georgia...Middle-School/

Riverwatch: (Forsyth/Suwanee)
https://www.greatschools.org/georgia...Middle-School/

Elite Scholars
https://www.greatschools.org/georgia...olars-Academy/

Hightower Trail.

http://www.cobbk12.org/centraloffice...er%20Trail.pdf
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