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Old 08-13-2019, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Cute idea, OP, but a little too juvenile to be taken seriously. Teddy bears? Really?

Here's the problem I see with scooters:

1. They are inherently unstable. Being that close to the ground makes the scooter far more susceptible to bumps/grates/holes in the road. It might not matter so much on a sidewalk, but they aren't allowed on sidewalks -- therefore, they are riding on the side of the road, which any cyclist can tell you is the pits with trash, uneven pavement, broken road edge, broken curb pieces, etc., etc.

2. If you are in a car, the relative speed of car to scooter makes it harder to see them at night, at least, not in time to react appropriately.

3. Responsible cyclists wear appropriate safety gear. Scooter riders don't. Yet they are riding on the same streets, at approximately the same speeds.

4. Scooter riders tend to think of themselves as pedestrians and act as such. But they aren't. Pedestrians weaving in the street would have cops called on them for fear they are under the influence and danger to themselves. But on a scooter, that same behavior is seen as appropriate. Why?

5. Safety lighting on scooters are ABYSMAL. They are so ineffective, I don't even know why they bother.

6. Scooter riders in packs scare the daylights out of me. Driving in downtown/midtown, it seems like when you get two or more scooters riding together, the riders are laughing and talking to each other and not minding traffic or the road. I sat at one red light and watched a pack of 8 riders drift diagonally across an intersection, against lights, and laughing the whole way.

7. If you're too impaired to drive, you're too impaired to ride a scooter. And yet, look outside bars and restaurants -- piles and piles of scooters.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:56 AM
 
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This is my understanding from having been at the site for the rally / memorial:




The people behind our car-first infrastructure are in the wrong. You can't blame people for not wanting to ride bikes / scooters in roads like this.
Okay. Let's ban busses too then since scooter drivers are too blind to see one turning out infront of them. While we're at this we can also dig out a nice trench between the Chattahoochee and Downtown and let everyone swim and canoe to work.

It's pretty clear if he hit him from the side the bus was already halfway through his turn and the scooter did not slow down.

Next up, scooter rider hits another scooter rider... automobile witnesses the collision from a stop light, accused for witnessing the wreckage
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Old 08-14-2019, 05:21 AM
 
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Look like a pretty weak turnout.

I already picked who at the protest I think is jsvh... but I'll keep my guess to myself.

E-scooter activists hold protest at Atlanta City Hall - Story | WAGA
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:07 AM
 
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This is my understanding from having been at the site for the rally / memorial:




The people behind our car-first infrastructure are in the wrong. You can't blame people for not wanting to ride bikes / scooters in roads like this.

The scooter shouldn't have been in the right lane and if the bus hit the person while turning, at that intersection there is a blind spot because the sidewalk is closed off. Actually that corner is also closed off.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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Okay. Let's ban busses too then since scooter drivers are too blind to see one turning out infront of them. While we're at this we can also dig out a nice trench between the Chattahoochee and Downtown and let everyone swim and canoe to work.

It's pretty clear if he hit him from the side the bus was already halfway through his turn and the scooter did not slow down.

Next up, scooter rider hits another scooter rider... automobile witnesses the collision from a stop light, accused for witnessing the wreckage
I like that idea. As a country we have already gone back decades and so why not?!
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:13 AM
 
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Look like a pretty weak turnout.

I already picked who at the protest I think is jsvh... but I'll keep my guess to myself.

E-scooter activists hold protest at Atlanta City Hall - Story | WAGA



I stopped caring and decided that they are ALL JSVH. It would explain the inconsistency in posts regarding moving the goal posts and being able to respond so fast and often.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Silliness.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:59 AM
 
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I haven't been on any of the scooters yet - not in Atlanta anyway. Like everyone else, I see them everywhere - especially since I work downtown. Am I to understand that every character I've seen on a scooter has a credit/debit card? I remember passively hearing/reading that one is required to start them.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:02 AM
 
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Nobody is addressing how a homeless person had a cell phone and a credit card.
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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Look like a pretty weak turnout.

I already picked who at the protest I think is jsvh... but I'll keep my guess to myself.

E-scooter activists hold protest at Atlanta City Hall - Story | WAGA
He's the one in the gray shirt, shorts and glasses on.
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