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Old 08-23-2019, 01:41 PM
 
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Because you have to or want to keep working?
Yep, I'm almost as busy now as ever. You've gotta stay active with something or you'll go stale. Take Trump or Biden or Bernie. They're no spring chickens but they're up and at 'em every day.

I've got miles to go before I sleep.
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Old 08-25-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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How does forgiving student loans (or at least some amount of them) make your way of life worse? Most arguments I've seen against it are "I had to pay student loans and my life sucked so new grads and future students lives should also suck."

I don't even have student loans and I'm for it assuming it will get paid for mainly by the upper class.
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Old 08-25-2019, 12:07 PM
 
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How does forgiving student loans (or at least some amount of them) make your way of life worse? Most arguments I've seen against it are "I had to pay student loans and my life sucked so new grads and future students lives should also suck."

I don't even have student loans and I'm for it assuming it will get paid for mainly by the upper class.
I am okay with the upper class paying for it, but here's the part I don't get. Say you get the HOPE and go to Georgia State, Kennesaw State, UGA, Tech or any of our other fine state universities. How do you wind up hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt after four years?
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Old 08-25-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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I am okay with the upper class paying for it, but here's the part I don't get. Say you get the HOPE and go to Georgia State, Kennesaw State, UGA, Tech or any of our other fine state universities. How do you wind up hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt after four years?
Oh no, I completely agree. Even if you lose HOPE/Zell, you still are out $40k at like the absolute max after 4 years. That's an amazing deal for a Bachelors degree. Housing and food is where things get tricky. Housing should run you about $8000/yr in Atlanta and food let's go with $2400/yr. A full-time job in the summers should be able to net you some money to pay your year's worth of food and housing. Loans or a part time job during the school year should be able to cover the rest. Unpaid internships should be illegal.
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Old 08-25-2019, 01:08 PM
 
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How does forgiving student loans (or at least some amount of them) make your way of life worse? Most arguments I've seen against it are "I had to pay student loans and my life sucked so new grads and future students lives should also suck."

I don't even have student loans and I'm for it assuming it will get paid for mainly by the upper class.
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I am okay with the upper class paying for it, but here's the part I don't get. Say you get the HOPE and go to Georgia State, Kennesaw State, UGA, Tech or any of our other fine state universities. How do you wind up hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt after four years?
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Oh no, I completely agree. Even if you lose HOPE/Zell, you still are out $40k at like the absolute max after 4 years. That's an amazing deal for a Bachelors degree. Housing and food is where things get tricky. Housing should run you about $8000/yr in Atlanta and food let's go with $2400/yr. A full-time job in the summers should be able to net you some money to pay your year's worth of food and housing. Loans or a part time job during the school year should be able to cover the rest. Unpaid internships should be illegal.

1) You hit the nail on the head.



2) Not everyone who gets into GSU and KSU has HOPE and so it could be that the first two years they go to school they have to draw out a loan and then when they transfer to the schools you listed, they become eligible for it. I would answer your question by saying auto loans, dorms, etc., are being paid for partially by student loans or maybe all of the student loan is being used.



3) Yes, they should be especially if the companies are not non-profit. In this day and age it's unbelievable such a thing is still legal. I would add this to one of the reasons why students are having to rely on loans. Many internships are unpaid. Some students also study abroad and even though there are scholarships for some (mostly need-based), it only covers a small fraction. There are many reasons I suppose.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:49 PM
 
Location: North Atlanta
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How does forgiving student loans (or at least some amount of them) make your way of life worse? Most arguments I've seen against it are "I had to pay student loans and my life sucked so new grads and future students lives should also suck."

I don't even have student loans and I'm for it assuming it will get paid for mainly by the upper class.
If this is such a great idea, shouldnít every taxpayer have some skin in the game?
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Old 08-25-2019, 09:20 PM
 
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If this is such a great idea, shouldn’t every taxpayer have some skin in the game?
They do have skin in the game -- they are getting free education out of it.

I don't see why I should be paying for it when Mr. Bezos is earning $10 billion a year pressing 3 buttons on his ETrade account and only using a tiny fraction of his earnings every year. I need the expendable money a lot more than he seems to.

Do you earn 7 figures a year? Why do you care if I tax Arthur Blank hard? Ronald Reagan was trash and I have no shame in calling him the worst President of all time for his egregiously awful (and honestly, maybe not explicitly but implicitly racist in effect) tax cut policies.
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:41 AM
 
Location: North Atlanta
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They do have skin in the game -- they are getting free education out of it.

I don't see why I should be paying for it when Mr. Bezos is earning $10 billion a year pressing 3 buttons on his ETrade account and only using a tiny fraction of his earnings every year. I need the expendable money a lot more than he seems to.

Do you earn 7 figures a year? Why do you care if I tax Arthur Blank hard? Ronald Reagan was trash and I have no shame in calling him the worst President of all time for his egregiously awful (and honestly, maybe not explicitly but implicitly racist in effect) tax cut policies.
You’re right. In fact, I’d take it a step further and enact a 90% income tax on any earnings over $100,000/year. Since that’s probably the only way we could actually afford to do this and the GND.
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Old 08-26-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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Maybe we should tap into some of these pro athletes and entertainers, too. You could pay for a lot of student loans with that money.
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Old 08-26-2019, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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They do have skin in the game -- they are getting free education out of it.

I don't see why I should be paying for it when Mr. Bezos is earning $10 billion a year pressing 3 buttons on his ETrade account and only using a tiny fraction of his earnings every year. I need the expendable money a lot more than he seems to.

Do you earn 7 figures a year? Why do you care if I tax Arthur Blank hard? Ronald Reagan was trash and I have no shame in calling him the worst President of all time for his egregiously awful (and honestly, maybe not explicitly but implicitly racist in effect) tax cut policies.
The problem is you want to have someone else pay for it. Mr bezos didnít always have that much money. He built up A business. You should do the same, not ask others to pay for your way.
How do you figure everyone has skin in the game? Plenty of people arenít getting a free education as you say.
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