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Old 09-02-2019, 07:51 PM
 
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That is fine. No one is trying to force transit on them.

Just don't use my state tax dollars to subsidize your massively expensive car commute into my neighborhood. We don't need more traffic. Let transportation spending be a local choice.
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Old Yesterday, 06:55 AM
 
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Do you believe that will happen in those counties? Demographically speaking here...
That I don't know, N4C. Are you thinking of demographics in terms of population growth? I would imagine that as Coweta and Fayette densify there could be more demand for public transit.
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Old Yesterday, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Jonesboro
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Fayette is transit-phobic to an extraordinary degree. And it's current very low population density presents an almost unworkable obstacle for mass transit as it is practiced elsewhere in the more populous & more densely developed counties in metro Atlanta.

Beyond that, Fayette is an odd case in that they are in trouble so to speak via the rapid aging of their population & their current leading-the-pack status in terms of the "graying" of population in metro Atlanta. Adding to that trend of aging found there, the county population is relatively stagnant in growth & the school age population has been in decline for a long time with the resultant issue of school closings being a major problem facing the school district.

Being a senior myself who lives next door to Fayette, I recognize that Fayette seniors living in their far flung subdivisions are going to face challenges in terms of living & transportation choices as they age further & face isolation & mobility issues. (Of course Fayette is not unique in that regard.)

If you consider it rationally, via the large lot zoning setup that is place throughout virtually the entire county, there is a tremendous obstacle in place in Fayette that thwarts densification & the development of mass transit to any meaningful degree. Nodes of new density such as that found at Pinewood Forest on Fayeteville's west side, will need to be enlarged & duplicated on a massive scale in order to meaningfully alter Fayette's low density. I'm not saying that it NEEDS to be done, just stating the reality of now.

Any politician (as found in the early on linked article) who should describe Marta as a current "threat" or as a looming issue to be cut off at the knees in Fayette is speaking in a wildly gross mis-characterization of the reality at this point in time. And that is pure dishonesty & a fraud.

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Old Yesterday, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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MARTA has 0 intention of serving Coweta or Fayette Counties. It would require an amendment to the MARTA Act for that to happen.
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Old Yesterday, 09:20 AM
 
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Not to their base, apparently.

Let's not forget, the US congressional representative for Coweta and Fayette's district (whose seat is quite arguably the safest in the country) proudly showcases confederate papers outside of their office in Washington about how slavery was the best thing to happen to black people.
And yet people on here couldn't believe that the NY Times published an article suggesting that segregation played a role in the transportation status for this region.
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Old Yesterday, 11:48 AM
 
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That I don't know, N4C. Are you thinking of demographics in terms of population growth? I would imagine that as Coweta and Fayette densify there could be more demand for public transit.
Demographics speaking mainly of the type and class of people who live there. I just.... .....don't really see those kinds of people being very pro-MARTA.
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Old Yesterday, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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There is zero need or even demand for MARTA to go to Fayette or Coweta.
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Demographics speaking mainly of the type and class of people who live there. I just.... .....don't really see those kinds of people being very pro-MARTA.
And how is that different from the type and class of people who live in Gwinnett and Cobb? Or Cherokee, Forsyth, Douglas, Rockdale or Henry?
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Old Yesterday, 12:04 PM
 
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And how is that different from the type and class of people who live in Gwinnett and Cobb? Or Cherokee, Forsyth, Douglas, Rockdale or Henry?
Every single one of those counties are either:

*Experiencing a rapid demographic shift

*Majority-minority

*Already have some form of mass transit or are actively discussing transit expansion.
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Old Yesterday, 12:10 PM
 
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And how is that different from the type and class of people who live in Gwinnett and Cobb? Or Cherokee, Forsyth, Douglas, Rockdale or Henry?
Both are more rural, both are still deeply red counties, and Fayette specifically probably has the financial power to stop MARTA expansion should they see it as a threat. Cowetta probably does too.

The northern counties are a bit more integrated and more-less...purple... I personally see a greater chance of Gwinnett getting MARTA before Fayette gets it.

Henry and Douglas, there are more blue collar commuters - I could see them getting MARTA before Fayette and Cowetta as well.
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Old Yesterday, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Both are more rural, both are still deeply red counties, and Fayette specifically probably has the financial power to stop MARTA expansion should they see it as a threat. Cowetta probably does too.

The northern counties are a bit more integrated and more-less...purple... I personally see a greater chance of Gwinnett getting MARTA before Fayette gets it.

Henry and Douglas, there are more blue collar commuters - I could see them getting MARTA before Fayette and Cowetta as well.
MARTA is not or will not be a threat to their white, conservative, suburban way of life.
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