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Old Yesterday, 06:49 AM
 
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Well that is a very silly reason.

I am starting to think the School Board might be more of a problem than the superintendent. Looks like they did this vote behind closed doors but if anyone finds how each member of the board voted it would be useful when they come up for election.



There was no vote. A vote is only needed if they were going to extend the contract. There is no vote to not extend they just allow the contract to run out which is what they are doing. This isn't some closed door backroom deal and Carstarphen herself has known what was coming for months now. This isn't a surprise to her she knew this was a strong possibility.
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Old Yesterday, 07:15 AM
 
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Jason Esteves did not support renewing her contract (this time around, unlike last year). When Rose Scott pressed him for specific examples, he either couldn't or wouldn't. What's done is done, but if ABOE members want to keep this thing from going totally off the rails, they need to be frank with constituents about what informed their decisions. At this point I feel like they are all just waiting on their prepared remarks from the hired guns at a PR form before facing the public. There is understandable concern that because their appears to be zero consensus from board members about what her undoing was, they are poorly positioned to find and recruit a candidate to correct those flaws. On top of that, finding a new leader will be a two-way street. ABOE will have to do better than "well, we all have our reasons" to really sell someone to take a job where the last candidate was given walking papers in this manner. The number of suitable candidates for these jobs is a lot lower than the number of opportunities nationwide, and the way this transpired is probably a red flag for someone with options.
Sorry, I didn’t pick that up from interview—he said all the “data” said that she did what they hired her to do, and so on—assuming you are right—then I understand this even less than I did before. Considering where the district was before she came, it doesn’t make sense at all.
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Old Yesterday, 07:25 AM
 
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Sorry, I didn’t pick that up from interview—he said all the “data” said that she did what they hired her to do, and so on—assuming you are right—then I understand this even less than I did before. Considering where the district was before she came, it doesn’t make sense at all.
I guess that's sort of my point. You just listened to Jason Esteves talk about his position for 20 minutes, get repeatedly pushed by the interviewer for specific examples, and by the end of it you still didn't definitively know where he stands (or why). Most of them are sticking to vaugities and prepared talking points, with no actual substance or substantiation. That needs to change, quickly.
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Old Yesterday, 10:51 AM
 
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Until I hear reasons why some people "just didn't like her". Think I am going to have to add myself to the camp of Carstarphen's supporters.

Having personal differences with someone is not sufficient reason to fire them when by all other accounts they appear to be doing a great job at improving the welfare of the students of Atlanta.

The Superintendent should not be a personal / political decision. It should be decided based on what benefits the students and Atlanta as a whole.
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Old Yesterday, 10:56 AM
 
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There was no vote. A vote is only needed if they were going to extend the contract. There is no vote to not extend they just allow the contract to run out which is what they are doing. This isn't some closed door backroom deal and Carstarphen herself has known what was coming for months now. This isn't a surprise to her she knew this was a strong possibility.
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The board retreated into closed session around 9:15 a.m. to discuss the contract issue. Three and a half hours later, they returned to the public meeting chambers where an audience of a couple dozen Atlanta Public Schools staff, parents and members of the superintendent’s cabinet waited for news.

The discussions to not extend the contract have been closed door. We still don't even know exactly who was in favor and who was opposed to renewing her contact because the discussion have been backroom. I still have not heard a reason, especially from the board, to oppose her besides that some "didn't like her".


Also lets not forget Carstarphen was vocally against the Gulch subsidies. This may be revenge from some for that.

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Old Yesterday, 11:05 AM
 
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It leaves me wondering if they will choose a replacement who is a yes man more than someone motivated to improve the education of our students and accountable to the parents and taxpayers. Seems to me she ruffled feathers in the leadership, because that's what it took to make changes and do her job.
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Old Yesterday, 11:32 AM
 
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It leaves me wondering if they will choose a replacement who is a yes man more than someone motivated to improve the education of our students and accountable to the parents and taxpayers. Seems to me she ruffled feathers in the leadership, because that's what it took to make changes and do her job.

Yep. Also the PR firm they hired is doing a terrible job of explaining the decision:

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...the district’s law firm has tapped a public relations company to help explain the board’s decision.
https://www.ajc.com/news/local-educa...fuuhLduGXqlkN/
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Old Yesterday, 11:34 AM
 
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The discussions to not extend the contract have been closed door. We still don't even know exactly who was in favor and who was opposed to renewing her contact because the discussion have been backroom. I still have not heard a reason, especially from the board, to oppose her besides that some "didn't like her".


Also lets not forget Carstarphen was vocally against the Gulch subsidies. This may be revenge from some for that.



There is no vote. None. The only vote is to extend. This also wasn't news to Carstarphen who was informed back in July that she wasn't going to be retained. You are making this into something it isn't. She is a highly paid administrator who has mediocre results. She has alienated everyone around her everywhere she has been.
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Old Yesterday, 01:01 PM
 
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There is no vote. None. The only vote is to extend. This also wasn't news to Carstarphen who was informed back in July that she wasn't going to be retained. You are making this into something it isn't. She is a highly paid administrator who has mediocre results. She has alienated everyone around her everywhere she has been.
Can you give an example of an APS superintendent that you feel has done better considering the circumstances?
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Old Yesterday, 01:16 PM
 
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Closed session? Why is it necessary to have a closed session?
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