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Old 09-10-2019, 05:06 PM
 
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Sounds like the North and East sides of town were okay with keeping Carstarphen, but that the objections to her were coming from the South side.
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Old 09-10-2019, 05:27 PM
 
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Sounds like the North and East sides of town were okay with keeping Carstarphen, but that the objections to her were coming from the South side.
True. But I think the communities on the south and west sides didn’t know how to leverage her policies to their advantage like the north and east sides did. To me, it sounds like a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Similar to debates about gentrification, I think the knee-jerk reaction from many was “she’s trying destroy the black schools”. I just don’t think there was good job in explaining the rationale behind her actions to her critics.

I have been to meetings less than 6 years ago when parents have said, “We cannot merge King and Coan! The Mechanicsville and Edgewood gangs don’t get along. This will destroy our schools!” I think this emotional, short-sighted type of thinking has set us back once again.

Even more recently, at a meeting with Carstarphen, someone asked, what can we do to prevent the closing and merging of our beloved SW schools. Carstarphen’s answer: “Tell your neighbors to start sending their kids to the school...”
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Old 09-10-2019, 05:32 PM
 
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Sounds like the North and East sides of town were okay with keeping Carstarphen, but that the objections to her were coming from the South side.
Eshé Collins was a strong yes and she represents district 6 on the south.

Michelle Olympiadisis a presumed strong no district 3 on the east.
Leslie Grant anther presumed strong no is district 1 is east.
Erika Mitchell a presumed strong no is district 5 to the west.
Jason Esteves is a presumed moosh and leads them all.


https://45tkhs2ch4042kf51f1akcju-wpe...rictsMar21.pdf
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Old 09-10-2019, 05:36 PM
 
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Sounds like the North and East sides of town were okay with keeping Carstarphen, but that the objections to her were coming from the South side.
Appears the exact opposite is true, actually. We know these three board members voted against Carstarphen last year:

-Leslie Grant (District 1 / Jackson HS cluster)
-Michelle D. Olympiadis (District 3 / Grady HS cluster)
-Erika Mitchell (District 4 / North Atlanta HS cluster)
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Old 09-10-2019, 05:36 PM
 
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Eshé Collins was a strong yes and she represents district 6 on the south.

Michelle Olympiadisis a presumed strong no district 3 on the east.
Leslie Grant anther presumed strong no is district 1 is east.
Erika Mitchell a presumed strong no is district 5 to the west.
Jason Esteves is a presumed moosh and leads them all.


https://45tkhs2ch4042kf51f1akcju-wpe...rictsMar21.pdf
This may be, but I thought arjay57 was referring to public sentiment rather than the leanings of the board members themselves.
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Old 09-10-2019, 05:40 PM
 
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Appears the exact opposite is true, actually. We know these three board members voted against Carstarphen last year:

-Leslie Grant (District 1 / Jackson HS cluster)
-Michelle D. Olympiadis (District 3 / Grady HS cluster)
-Erika Mitchell (District 4 / North Atlanta HS cluster)
I thought Erika Mitchell was District 5. Nevertheless, here is her explanation of her rationale about the decision: https://waok.radio.com/articles/news...F_6FjLAFk_rQZQ
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:08 PM
 
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This may be, but I thought arjay57 was referring to public sentiment rather than the leanings of the board members themselves.
Yes, I was referring to public sentiment, as well as the statements by Board Chair Jason Esteves in his interview yesterday with Rose Scott.

He gets into this directly at the 59:00 minute mark.

https://www.wabe.org/episode/closer-...mjnhR4akzZRY6U
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Old 09-10-2019, 07:02 PM
 
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Yes, I was referring to public sentiment, as well as the statements by Board Chair Jason Esteves in his interview yesterday with Rose Scott.

He gets into this directly at the 59:00 minute mark.

https://www.wabe.org/episode/closer-...mjnhR4akzZRY6U
Esteves seemed to be trying to keep his fingerprints off this (for now). He seems to be a nice guy who is trying to play politics—he will claim it if the positive momentum of the district makes it a non-issue, and claim he was just executing the will of the board, if things go south.
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Old 09-10-2019, 07:36 PM
 
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Esteves seemed to be trying to keep his fingerprints off this (for now). He seems to be a nice guy who is trying to play politics—he will claim it if the positive momentum of the district makes it a non-issue, and claim he was just executing the will of the board, if things go south.
However, his comments about the North side and East side people may be on the mark. As he puts it, they are okay with keeping Carstarphen because they want stability. That would not surprise me.
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Old 09-11-2019, 06:06 AM
 
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Appears the exact opposite is true, actually. We know these three board members voted against Carstarphen last year:

-Leslie Grant (District 1 / Jackson HS cluster)
-Michelle D. Olympiadis (District 3 / Grady HS cluster)
-Erika Mitchell (District 4 / North Atlanta HS cluster)
Though Michelle does represent many of the Grady feeders, the Grady campus is actually in Leslie's district as well. I think district 3 is the only one without a traditional APS HS within it's bounds.

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Esteves seemed to be trying to keep his fingerprints off this (for now). He seems to be a nice guy who is trying to play politics—he will claim it if the positive momentum of the district makes it a non-issue, and claim he was just executing the will of the board, if things go south.
I think the "nays" had probably picked up another member since last year, maybe leaving the board split at 4/4 with only 8 members currently. After some conversations, and realizing whomever fills that seat would likely vote against her next year, Jason decided it would be better to start the search for a replacement now rather than put off the inevitable. I think that even if Jason Esteves was generally in favor of retaining her, he saw the writing on the the wall regarding the same discussion next year and decided to align the new strategic plan with the search for new leadership.
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