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Old 09-13-2019, 01:05 PM
 
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It's definitely a battleground state. None of the battles have been successful for dems yet, but it is most certainly a battleground.

2020 includes 2 senate seats in a state that has been demographically shifting and has lots of electoral votes. There will be HUGE attention paid to Georgia this time around.
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Old 09-13-2019, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Why do people who lose races in Georgia think that means they just need to aim higher?

Stacy Abrams lost and now she thinks she should be VP, lol.

Ossoff lost, even with tons of outside money helping him. Why does that then make him a good candidate for Senate?
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Old 09-13-2019, 04:34 PM
 
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Why do people who lose races in Georgia think that means they just need to aim higher?

Stacy Abrams lost and now she thinks she should be VP, lol.

Ossoff lost, even with tons of outside money helping him. Why does that then make him a good candidate for Senate?
Think about it this way- how many average people had heard of those 2 people before their big races? And how many are familiar with them now? A whole lot more, right?

A lost race isn't completely a loss, if you get a lot of attention and experience and ground game/organization and other things out of it.

Abrams especially is like a national-level celebrity now.
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Old 09-13-2019, 06:23 PM
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1. The Georgia legislature is heavily gerrymandered. So are our US House districts. The ratio of total Democratic/Republican votes is much closer than the number of seats.
2. US Senators have six-year terms. That gives some time for demographics to change.
3. The gubernatorial election last year was very close and would have gone the other way without vote-rigging.
4. Also in other statewide races the margins are getting closer.
The number of Black voters in the 2018 election was vastly higher than before.

The voter purges were required due to a federal law.

Abrams voter registration project had a number of claims of fraud and comprised a large % of those thrown off.

Nobody was stopped from voting. They could still do a provisional ballot.

Abrams lies about vote rigging and suppression that you are so easily manipulated into believing means she can create another 175-200k job for herself that requires minimal work as she did with her voter registration project. She's a con artist and you have been conned.
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Old 09-14-2019, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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The number of Black voters in the 2018 election was vastly higher than before.

The voter purges were required due to a federal law.

Abrams voter registration project had a number of claims of fraud and comprised a large % of those thrown off.

Nobody was stopped from voting. They could still do a provisional ballot.
https://trofire.com/2018/11/02/georg...f-voter-purge/

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Abrams lies about vote rigging and suppression that you are so easily manipulated into believing means she can create another 175-200k job for herself that requires minimal work as she did with her voter registration project. She's a con artist and you have been conned.
If you support Trump then you have no room to say this. Pick up a mirror.
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Old 09-14-2019, 10:05 AM
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https://trofire.com/2018/11/02/georg...f-voter-purge/



If you support Trump then you have no room to say this. Pick up a mirror.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...governor-race/

"If Georgia’s Brian Kemp is a vote suppressor, he’s the least successful vote suppressor alive. Turnout in Georgia was immense. In the previous gubernatorial election, Republican Nathan Deal won with 1.3 million votes. In November, Abrams lost with 1.9 million votes. There were roughly 2.5 million total votes cast in 2014. In 2018, more than 3.9 million Georgians voted. That almost matches the total votes cast for president in 2016.

According to FiveThirtyEight, 55 percent of eligible Georgians voted, a whopping 21-point increase over the 1982–2014 midterm average. Moreover, according to preliminary exit polls, a record-high 40 percent of Georgia’s electorate was nonwhite. Georgia’s 55 percent turnout exceeded the national average of 47 percent...."


The left is so consumed with TDS, they can't see most Republicans are very realistic about what President Trump is (and isn't). His support on the right keeps going up through the actions and words of the Democrats, in spite of what he does himself, not because of it.
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Old 09-14-2019, 03:23 PM
 
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Moreover, according to preliminary exit polls, a record-high 40 percent of Georgia’s electorate was nonwhite. Georgia’s 55 percent turnout exceeded the national average of 47 percent...."
But isn't Georgia the very least white state in the entire union, or one of the handful of them? I mean did you and the National Review geniuses even factor that in, when trying to sit here and argue that the established power infrastructure in GA politics doesn't indirectly discourage/suppress non-white voting? Cause, you know, it clearly and obviously does. Because they know they have to.

Excuse me while I go barf, when I think about how many right-wingers live around here that could actually see the world thru those blinders, willfully or otherwise. Can't wait to leave Georgia when I read threads like this.
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Old 09-14-2019, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...governor-race/

"If Georgia’s Brian Kemp is a vote suppressor, he’s the least successful vote suppressor alive. Turnout in Georgia was immense. In the previous gubernatorial election, Republican Nathan Deal won with 1.3 million votes. In November, Abrams lost with 1.9 million votes. There were roughly 2.5 million total votes cast in 2014. In 2018, more than 3.9 million Georgians voted. That almost matches the total votes cast for president in 2016.

According to FiveThirtyEight, 55 percent of eligible Georgians voted, a whopping 21-point increase over the 1982–2014 midterm average. Moreover, according to preliminary exit polls, a record-high 40 percent of Georgia’s electorate was nonwhite. Georgia’s 55 percent turnout exceeded the national average of 47 percent...."


The left is so consumed with TDS, they can't see most Republicans are very realistic about what President Trump is (and isn't). His support on the right keeps going up through the actions and words of the Democrats, in spite of what he does himself, not because of it.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/12/polit...emp/index.html

Abrams "lost" the election by only about 55,000 votes. She missed the run-off by even less than that!

And we haven't even gotten started on those ridiculously insecure voting machines that had no paper trails.
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Old 09-14-2019, 06:23 PM
 
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But isn't Georgia the very least white state in the entire union, or one of the handful of them? I mean did you and the National Review geniuses even factor that in, when trying to sit here and argue that the established power infrastructure in GA politics doesn't indirectly discourage/suppress non-white voting? Cause, you know, it clearly and obviously does. Because they know they have to.

Excuse me while I go barf, when I think about how many right-wingers live around here that could actually see the world thru those blinders, willfully or otherwise. Can't wait to leave Georgia when I read threads like this.

Me too. I'm so over it. I'm hoping to work for a company that has contracts in different states. Abroad would be a plus.
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Old 09-15-2019, 09:26 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/12/polit...emp/index.html

Abrams "lost" the election by only about 55,000 votes. She missed the run-off by even less than that!

And we haven't even gotten started on those ridiculously insecure voting machines that had no paper trails.
Democrats have become notoriously bad losers. There are far more one party Democratic precincts than Republican. That's where voter fraud occurs, when there's little or no oversight.

Abrams did really, really well. But she lost and she can't accept it. She makes up stuff just like the Clinton people did. Voter fraud is historically much worse on the Democratic side.

Democrats fight tooth and nail efforts that reduce voter fraud such as voter ID, claiming its voter suppression. So no crocodile tears over voting machines.
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